[PANRG] Re: OPPD side meeting

Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no> Fri, 08 November 2024 09:51 UTC

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Hi,

Agenda: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/121/agenda
Leftmost button “Show meeting materials” => Slides => click it (the “Sidekick…” title).
Resulting URL: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/121/materials/slides-121-panrg-sidekick-in-network-assistance-for-arbitrary-end-to-end-transport-protocols-00

Cheers,
Michael


> On Nov 8, 2024, at 4:55 AM, Hesham ElBakoury <helbakoury@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> How I can get Keith slides?
> Thanks
> Hesham
> 
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2024, 6:56 AM Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no <mailto:michawe@ifi.uio.no>> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> This is just to share a few updates:
>> 
>> - this side meeting will last only one hour, from 18:30 to 19:30 (instead of 20:00), to avoid overlapping with Stuart Cheshire’s side meeting on TCP_REPLENISH_TIME.
>> 
>> - remote participation now follows the usual IETF method: https://ietf.webex.com/meet/ietfsidemeeting2  please forget about the Zoom details below.
>> 
>> - more material, the link to the mailing list link, etc., are all at: https://github.com/mwelzl/oppd
>> 
>> - Keith Winstein will present one of our main use cases, the Sidekick protocols, in PANRG, in the upcoming slot from 15:30-17:30 (towards the end of the agenda, in case you have an overlap).
>> 
>> Having seen the hyperactive SCONE meeting this morning, I’m sure we can have a pretty interesting conversation about how our proposal relates to what’s going on there; I hope some of you can make it to our side meeting. I’m looking forward to seeing you there, in Wicklow Hall 2A !
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 29, 2024, at 5:36 AM, Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no <mailto:michawe@ifi.uio.no>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> I wanted to inform you of a side meeting on On-Path Proxy Discovery, in Wicklow Hall 2A, on Thursday, 7 November 2024, from 18:30 to 20:00.
>>> This is organized by a group of people who, in support of their use cases (two separate research efforts that have shown benefits from on-path QUIC proxies (*)  ), want to begin the work on discovering on-path proxies, without being 100% clear about where in the IETF it fits.
>>> 
>>> Now that it’s chartered, SCONE now seems like a pretty obvious target, but perhaps I’m wrong?   Well, that’s the kind of conversation we’d like to have   :-)
>>> 
>>> Please see https://github.com/mwelzl/oppd for everything related, including a draft that tries to give an overview of the possibilities:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-welzl-panrg-oppd
>>> 
>>> Coordinates for remote participation are below.
>>> 
>>> I hope to see you there!
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> (*) SMAQ: https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.08543  and the Sidekick: https://www.usenix.org/conference/nsdi24/presentation/yuan   - a brief presentation of the latter is scheduled for PANRG.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> = = = = = = = = =
>>> 
>>> 
>>> OPPD side meeting
>>> Scheduled: Nov 7, 2024 at 6:30 PM to 8:00 PM, GMT
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