Re: [Pce] Rules to request a "slot" during PCE WG Meetings

Huaimo Chen <huaimo.chen@huawei.com> Thu, 14 July 2011 15:17 UTC

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Hi JP and Julien,

I have requested for three time slots for presenting four drafts. Would you mind letting me whether these follow the rules to request slots?
     1. "A Forward-Search P2P TE LSP Inter-Domain Path Computation" ( http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-pce-forward-search-p2p-path-computation/ ). (15 minutes)
    There are lots of private discussions about this draft with many people after the first version of the draft was presented in Prague. The draft is revised according to some of the discussions. I would like to present and share with the WG the results on the feedbacks from the discussions. From the discussions, I feel that it is very hard to share some of the ideas and feedbacks about the draft without slides/picture presentation.

     2. "A Forward-Search P2MP TE LSP Inter-Domain Path Computation" ( http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-pce-forward-search-p2mp-path/ ). (10 minutes)
    There are lots of private discussions about this draft after the first version of the draft was presented in Prague. The draft is revised according to some of the discussions. I would like to present and share with the WG the results on the feedbacks from the discussions.

     3. "Extensions to PCEP for Backup Ingress of TE LSP" ( http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-pce-compute-backup-ingress/ ) and "Extensions to PCEP for Backup Ingress of TE LSP"( http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-pce-compute-backup-egress/ ). (5 minutes)
    There are some discussions about these two drafts on the PCE mailing list. In addition, there are some private discussions about them. The drafts are revised according to the feedbacks. It would be nice to have a short presentation on the results of the discussions.

Best Regards,
Huaimo
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Subject: [Pce] Rules to request a "slot" during PCE WG Meetings

Dear all,

Julien and I have been having a discussion on how to better manage our WG meeting time.

As a matter of fact, a number of requested slots are related to IDs that were already "presented" during previous
IETF meetings, refreshed just before the cut-off submission date without discussion on the mailing list ...

As a gentle reminder, the aim of WG meetings is to discuss open issues that could not be resolved by email
attempting to reach a consensus, to be confirmed on the mailing list.

You may want to also refer to a similar discussion that we had during the Routing Area meeting at the last IETF.

Few points here:
1) If your ID falls into the WG charter, it is perfectly fine to get a "presentation" slot when first posted (rev -00) if
time permits (priority will be given to slots allocated to resolve technical issues discussed on the mailing list).
Although people attending the WG meeting are supposed to have read each document, you may want to explain
the issue that you are trying to solve, and how.
2) Before requesting a slot, please make sure that your intent is to discuss specific technical issues related to
the document that could not be resolved on the mailing list. In other words, please do not request slots for IDs
for which no discussion took place on the mailing list.

With that in mind, could you please send us your slot request no later than Monday July 18 at noon ET?
Julien and I will publish the WG meeting agenda the day after, with some delays but hopefully an improved
agenda.

Many Thanks.

JP and Julien.