Re: [Pce] Is there any activity related to PCE graceful restart?

"Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Sun, 18 June 2017 17:34 UTC

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From: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
To: 'Alexander Vainshtein' <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>, jonathan.hardwick@metaswitch.com, jpv@cisco.com, julien.meuric@orange.com
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Subject: Re: [Pce] Is there any activity related to PCE graceful restart?
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Sasha,
 
What are you hoping to achieve?
 
That a restarting PCE can retain its TED and LSP-DB?
That a restarting PCE can synch state with the network?
That a restarting PCE with outstanding (unanswered) messages in either direction
can not need to resend them?
That a restarting PCE can resend outstanding (unanswered) messages without
problems caused by duplication?
 
I think you may want to read around the definition of the request-id. Although
5440 doesn't make it explicit, a lot comes from how you process the request-id.
That "a lot" arose from consideration of parallel sessions and distilled to not
needing to write about restart.
 
Cheers,
Adrian (resurrecting old memories, possibly not entirely accurately)
 
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Sent: 18 June 2017 16:43
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Subject: Re: [Pce] Is there any activity related to PCE graceful restart?
 
Re-sending with the correct WG mailing list address.
 
Regards,
Sasha
 
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From: Alexander Vainshtein 
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'jpv@cisco.com' <jpv@cisco.com>; 'julien.meuric@orange.com'
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<Michael.Gorokhovsky@ecitele.com>; Marina Fizgeer <Marina.Fizgeer@ecitele.com>;
Alexander Ferdman <Alexander.Ferdman@ecitele.com>
Subject: Is there any activity related to PCE graceful restart?
 
Hi all,
My colleagues and I tried to find any work in the PCE WG related to PCEP
graceful restart.
So far, we did not succeed. This could mean one of the following:
-          Our search did not go deep enough. In this case pointers to any
specific documents would be highly appreciated
-          Such work does not exist because (for some reason) it is not
required. This looks problematic to me, especially if we deal with a stateful
active PCE and the path computed by the PCE was implemented using Segment
Routing (so that only the head end of the computed path is aware of the path).
However, I could have missed something obvious, and any clarifications would be
highly appreciated
-          Such work is required but, so far, nobody has taken care of it. The
implications are obvious:-(.
 
Your feedback would be highly appreciated.
 
Regards, and lots of thanks in advance,
Sasha
 
Office: +972-39266302
Cell:      +972-549266302
Email:   Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com
 

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