RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-architecture-00.txt
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Hi all, Just a reminder that all comments on this draft would be great. It aims to describe the PCN architecture, in light of the PCN WG's Charter & its Milestone of an Info doc on 'Flow Admission and Termination Architecture within a Diffserv Domain' (due Nov 07). S1 Introduction. This is quite short. If desired, it could be boosted with a general explanation of where PCN fits into the picture of QoS and how it's evolved (compare Section 1.1 of draft-chan-pcn-problem-statement-01) S2 Terminology In the "Editor's note" are 3 alternative terms that some of the authors preferred. S3 Assumptions and constraints on scope These are the 4 things mentioned in the Charter, plus some explanation of them. Are they clear? Also we mention some of the ways that a future revised Charter might look at overcoming some of the constraints/assumptions; is this sub-section at the right depth? S4 High-level functional architecture We have tried to write this section (and the following ones) so that it fits all the various proposals there've been for PCN mechanisms. Does this make the section too wishy-washy or too hard to understand? Should it include some comparison of the different mechanisms proposed (PCN-interior-node marking algorithms & PCN-boundary-node reactions)? S5 Detailed Functional architecture Is this a reasonable description of the extra functionality that PCN requires on various nodes in the PCN-domain? Is it the right way to split up the description? For clarity / help reader's understanding, should there be some specific examples of how functionality might be distributed (eg "if you followed the deployment model in draft-briscoe-tsvwg-cl-architecture-04, then this measurement is made at the PCN-egress-node, communicated to the PCN-ingress-nodes which makes the admission decision; etc.") S6 Design goals and challenges This briefly describes some open issues, taken from briscoe-tsvwg-cl-architecture. Are there other ones that should be mentioned? Is the problem description at the right level of depth? Should we discuss various possible solutions to these problems? S7 Deployment scenarios Briefly describes some deployment scenarios for pcn? is this at the right level of depth? S8 Operations and Management This section was written in response to the Charter saying that the architecture document should include security, manageability and operational considerations. The draft addresses this by providing some thoughts under the FCAPS headings: OAM of Faults, Configuration, Accounting, Performance and Security? Is this the right way of structuring it - does it cover the right set of topics? Is the text at the right level? - eg should it also have a detailed set of parameters that would be available for configuration? An overall question is whether the draft should have more comparison of the options (pros/cons) for various aspects. I aim to edit another version of the draft before the ietf (but maybe not before the deadline as I'm on hols next week). Thanks! Phil/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Kwok-Ho Chan [mailto:khchan@nortel.com] > Sent: 22 June 2007 04:38 > To: pcn@ietf.org > Subject: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-architecture-00.txt > > Hi all: > Please see the attached E-Mail on the posting of the PCN Architecture > draft. > On behave of the editor of this draft: Phil, and the co-authors of this > draft, > we would like to request for reviews and comments of this draft and > welcome > any comments for improvements. > > Please send your comments/discussions of this draft on the PCN list. > > Thank you for your interest and review of this draft! > -- Kwok on behave of the co-authors of this draft -- > > > >To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > >Cc: > >From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org > >Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:50:02 -0400 > >X-Scan-Signature: b7b9551d71acde901886cc48bfc088a6 > >Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-architecture-00.txt > >X-BeenThere: i-d-announce@ietf.org > >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 > >Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org > >List-Id: i-d-announce.ietf.org > >List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce>, > > <mailto:i-d-announce-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> > >List-Archive: <http://www1.ietf.org/pipermail/i-d-announce> > >List-Post: <mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org> > >List-Help: <mailto:i-d-announce-request@ietf.org?subject=help> > >List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce>, > > <mailto:i-d-announce-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> > >X-Spam-Tests: FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05,MIME_BOUND_NEXTPART=0.106, > > NO_REAL_NAME=0.178,TO_CC_NOT_NORTEL=1,URIBL_MANURI=4 > >X-Spam-Score: 5.3 > >X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.4 (2005-06-05) on > ecarhea1.nortel.com > >X-DNSBL-Score: -50 > >X-DNSBL-Servers: bl.nortel.com > >X-SMTP-HELO: megatron.ietf.org > >X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: i-d-announce-bounces@ietf.org > >X-SMTP-RCPT-TO: > >kboyle@nortel.com,bstucker@nortel.com,balles@nortel.com,bharrath@nortel .c > om,babiarz@nortel.com,audet@nortel.com,aceler@nortel.com,simmonds@nortel .c > om,huiwc@nortel.com,amuhanna@nortel.com,mchen@nortel.com,khchan@nortel.c om > >X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: odin.ietf.ORG [156.154.16.145] > >X-SMTP-REASON: PASSED > >X-SMTP-ID: 1182455563.14011407 > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Jun 2007 19:52:44.0828 (UTC) > >FILETIME=[BC4965C0:01C7B43D] > > > >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > >directories. > > > > > > Title : Pre-Congestion Notification Architecture > > Author(s) : P. 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- [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-architect… Kwok-Ho Chan
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Tina TSOU
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Tina TSOU
- Re: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Michael Menth
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Jozef Babiarz
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Lars Eggert
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Geib, Ruediger
- Re: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Steven Blake
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Jozef Babiarz
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… philip.eardley
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… philip.eardley
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Tina TSOU
- Re: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Tom Taylor
- Re: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Lars Eggert
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Tina TSOU
- Re: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Tina TSOU
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… philip.eardley
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Bob Briscoe
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Geib, Ruediger
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Bob Briscoe
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Bob Briscoe
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Michael Menth
- [PCN] PCN & ECN-(congestion experienced) interact… philip.eardley
- RE: [PCN] PCN & ECN-(congestion experienced) inte… Jozef Babiarz
- RE: [PCN] PCN & ECN-(congestion experienced) inte… philip.eardley
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… philip.eardley
- RE: [PCN] PCN & ECN-(congestion experienced) inte… Jozef Babiarz
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Jozef Babiarz
- Re: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Michael Menth
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Jozef Babiarz
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Bob Briscoe
- RE: [PCN] PCN & ECN-(congestion experienced) inte… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] PCN & ECN-(congestion experienced) inte… Lachlan Andrew
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… philip.eardley
- RE: [PCN] PCN & ECN-(congestion experienced) inte… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Tina TSOU
- Re: [PCN] PCN & ECN-(congestion experienced) inte… Lachlan Andrew
- RE: [PCN] PCN & ECN-(congestion experienced) inte… Steven Blake
- RE: [PCN] PCN & ECN-(congestion experienced) inte… philip.eardley
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Tina TSOU
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… Tina TSOU
- RE: [PCN] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-eardley-pcn-archi… philip.eardley
- [PCN] draft-eardley-pcn-architecture-00.txt on-of… Bob Briscoe
- RE: [PCN] draft-eardley-pcn-architecture-00.txt s… Bob Briscoe
- RE: [PCN] draft-eardley-pcn-architecture-00 funct… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [PCN] draft-eardley-pcn-architecture-00.txt o… Michael Menth
- RE: [PCN] draft-eardley-pcn-architecture-00.txt o… philip.eardley
- RE: [PCN] draft-eardley-pcn-architecture-00 funct… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] draft-eardley-pcn-architecture-00.txt o… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [PCN] draft-eardley-pcn-architecture-00.txt o… Lachlan Andrew
- Re: [PCN] draft-eardley-pcn-architecture-00.txt o… Lars Eggert
- RE: [PCN] draft-eardley-pcn-architecture-00.txt o… Geib, Ruediger
- [PCN] ECN & EF Steven Blake
- RE: [PCN] draft-eardley-pcn-architecture-00.txt o… Jozef Babiarz
- [PCN] RE: ECN & EF philip.eardley
- RE: [PCN] draft-eardley-pcn-architecture-00.txt o… Bob Briscoe
- RE: [PCN] RE: ECN & EF Black_David
- Re: [PCN] RE: ECN & EF Fred Baker
- Re: [PCN] RE: ECN & EF ken carlberg
- RE: [PCN] draft-eardley-pcn-architecture-00.txt o… Bob Briscoe
- RE: [PCN] RE: ECN & EF philip.eardley
- RE: [PCN] draft-eardley-pcn-architecture-00.txt o… Jozef Babiarz