Re: [pcp] I-D Action: draft-vinapamula-flow-ha-03.txt
<mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Fri, 19 September 2014 09:19 UTC
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To: "Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)" <tireddy@cisco.com>, "pcp@ietf.org" <pcp@ietf.org>, "cheshire@apple.com" <cheshire@apple.com>
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Subject: Re: [pcp] I-D Action: draft-vinapamula-flow-ha-03.txt
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Re-, Please see inline. Cheers, Med >-----Message d'origine----- >De : Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy) [mailto:tireddy@cisco.com] >Envoyé : vendredi 19 septembre 2014 11:07 >À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; pcp@ietf.org; cheshire@apple.com >Objet : RE: I-D Action: draft-vinapamula-flow-ha-03.txt > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com >> [mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com] >> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 11:38 AM >> To: Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy); pcp@ietf.org; cheshire@apple.com >> Subject: RE: I-D Action: draft-vinapamula-flow-ha-03.txt >> >> Hi Tiru, >> >> Please see inline. >> >> Cheers, >> Med >> >> >-----Message d'origine----- >> >De : Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy) [mailto:tireddy@cisco.com] Envoyé : >> >jeudi 18 septembre 2014 17:18 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed IMT/OLN; >> >pcp@ietf.org; cheshire@apple.com Objet : RE: I-D Action: >> >draft-vinapamula-flow-ha-03.txt >> > >> > >> >I can think of two to three ways to address this problem 1)Applications >> >with required authorization can only signal that it's a high priority >> >flow. >> >2)End User with the help of a web-portal let's say provided by Home >> >Gateway or ISP can re-arrange priorities of flows. Applications like >> >uTorrent already provide UI so that user can assign priorities for >> >different file downloads. >> >3)Just like various good background applications use LEDBAT to limit >> >congestion, we can except that such applications in future will >> >explicitly signal that it's a low priority flow. >> > >> >> [Med] Do you mean PCP messages will be modified in path? > >No, I meant there will be some applications that will declare that they >have low-priority flows just like applications that declare that HA is not >required. [Med] OK. If we assume a priority level was added, what will be the behavior of the server when it receives a request for high-priority flow but there is no resources to honor the request? Should it remove entries with low-priority from the check-pointing table? I'm afraid this will induce more complexity at the server side. > >> >> >> >> >> Wouldn't (1) be sufficient to address the case you mentioned in your >> >> message? >> > >> >I don't think it is sufficient, it does not provide relative priority. >> >> [Med] Do these flows require check-pointing too? Or you only care about >> prioritizing these flows during congestion events? > >These flows could care about both check-pointing and prioritization or care >about only one of them. [Med] I can understand the priority level for flows that are subject to check-pointing, but I have an issue to generalize this draft to address the prioritization purpose ** only **. The problems are not the same. If prioritization is needed as a requirement in its own (which I understand since I'm for a mean to indicate at least DSCP), then a dedicated option can be defined for that purpose.
- Re: [pcp] I-D Action: draft-vinapamula-flow-ha-03… Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)
- Re: [pcp] I-D Action: draft-vinapamula-flow-ha-03… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [pcp] I-D Action: draft-vinapamula-flow-ha-03… Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)
- Re: [pcp] I-D Action: draft-vinapamula-flow-ha-03… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [pcp] I-D Action: draft-vinapamula-flow-ha-03… Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)
- Re: [pcp] I-D Action: draft-vinapamula-flow-ha-03… Bertz, Lyle T [CTO]
- Re: [pcp] I-D Action: draft-vinapamula-flow-ha-03… mohamed.boucadair