Re: [pcp] PCP in Service Provider Networks - (was Re: Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery-02)
Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com> Thu, 03 November 2011 20:01 UTC
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From: Dave Thaler <dthaler@microsoft.com>
To: Reinaldo Penno <rpenno@juniper.net>, "pcp@ietf.org" <pcp@ietf.org>, Alain Durand <adurand@juniper.net>
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Subject: Re: [pcp] PCP in Service Provider Networks - (was Re: Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery-02)
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Reinaldo Penno writes: > Separation of subscriber management interfaces from NAT/PCP and use VRFs > are common practice in CGN deployments. > > Such deployments and strategy are discussed in multiple draft related to > IPv4/IPv6 co-existence and transition. A few references. > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kuarsingh-lsn-deployment-05 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-softwire-gateway-init-ds-lite-05 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6342 > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-3gpp-eps-08 > > The charter talks about CGNs but given the recent thread a clarification is > needed if PCP protocol should be appropriately specified so it can work on > wireless/wireline service provider networks as described above. > > Can the chairs please clarify the scope of PCP? > > If such network architectures are in scope will this be part of the base spec or > can we have a new deliverable on the charter? The charter says: "The PCP working group is chartered to standardize a client/server Port Control Protocol (PCP) to enable an explicit dialog with a middlebox such as a NAT or a firewall to open up and/or forward TCP or UDP port, regardless of the location of that middlebox." In my view the "regardless of the location of that middlebox" means all topologies are in scope for discussion for the WG. That doesn't mean the WG has to support all possible topologies, if consensus is to constrain them in some way. It also doesn't imply that the base PCP spec itself has to support all topologies itself, that's a WG decision. If the WG chooses to put extensions to support certain topologies in a separate document, the WG could do so. We already have WG consensus to do that for DS-lite topologies. -Dave
- Re: [pcp] Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery… Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [pcp] Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery… RJ Atkinson
- [pcp] Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery-02 Dave Thaler
- Re: [pcp] Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery… Reinaldo Penno
- [pcp] Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery-02 RJ Atkinson
- Re: [pcp] Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery… RJ Atkinson
- Re: [pcp] Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery… Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [pcp] Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery… Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [pcp] Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery… RJ Atkinson
- Re: [pcp] Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery… james woodyatt
- Re: [pcp] Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery… Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [pcp] Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery… Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [pcp] Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery… Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [pcp] Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery… Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [pcp] Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery… Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [pcp] Comments on draft-cheshire-pcp-recovery… RJ Atkinson
- [pcp] PCP in Service Provider Networks - (was Re:… Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [pcp] PCP in Service Provider Networks - (was… Dave Thaler
- Re: [pcp] PCP in Service Provider Networks - (was… Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [pcp] PCP in Service Provider Networks - (was… Alain Durand