Re: [pcp] Will PCP do it?

The use case is to allow mobile location to be provided to web portals.

We keep our promises with one another - no matter what!

Best Regards,
Tina TSOU
http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Wing [mailto:dwing@cisco.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:38 PM
To: 'Tina Tsou'; pcp@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [pcp] Will PCP do it?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tina Tsou [mailto:tena@huawei.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 1:22 PM
> To: 'Dan Wing'; pcp@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [pcp] Will PCP do it?
> 
> It is not related to source-trace.

I am out of guesses.

What is the use case?

-d

> 
> We keep our promises with one another - no matter what!
> 
> Best Regards,
> Tina TSOU
> http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Wing [mailto:dwing@cisco.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 12:06 PM
> To: 'Tina Tsou'; pcp@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [pcp] Will PCP do it?
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tina Tsou [mailto:tena@huawei.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:52 AM
> > To: 'Dan Wing'; pcp@ietf.org
> > Subject: RE: [pcp] Will PCP do it?
> >
> > My understanding about PCP is that it allows the PCP client to
> instruct
> > the
> > PCP server to allocate a port number with a transport protocol
> > (pinhole) so
> > that the PCP client can send the NAT's public IP address, transport
> > protocol
> > and port number to the application server outside the NAT to allow
> that
> > application server to send information to the device with the PCP
> > client.
> 
> Yes, that covers two of the use-cases described in draft-ietf-pcp-base,
> " Operating a Server" (Section 7.1) and "Operating a Symmetric
> Client/Server" (Section 7.3).
> 
> > A PCP client already has the public IP address, transport port
> protocol
> > and
> > port number  What I described does not involve the device behind the
> > NAT but
> > another entity that is interested in knowing which private IP address
> > is
> > assigned with a specific port number for a transport protocol and
> NAT's
> > public IP address.  Is it in your opinion that PCP can be enhanced to
> > support this type of inquiry? Just ask.
> 
> It could be.  I'm asked "what is the use case" to understand why
> you're wanting this functionality.
> 
> > If not, I will go for another
> > candidate protocol.
> >
> > In the mobile operator network, two interfaces are needed if mobile
> GW
> > and
> > NAT are separate:
> > 1. with NAT: request contains the NAT's public IP address, transport
> > protocol and port number; response contains the private IP address
> and
> > the
> > port number.
> > 2. with mobile GW: request contains the private IP address and
> response
> > contains the mobile identities (e.g. IMSI, MSISDN, etc.)
> >
> > If the mobile GW is integrated with the NAT, one interface is needed.
> > The
> > request contains the mobile GW's/NAT's public IP address, transport
> > protocol
> > and port number, and the response contains the mobile identities.
> 
> Sorry, I still don't understand the use case.
> 
> Is the use case to allow an external entity to perform user
> identification,
> akin to draft-chen-intarea-v4-uid-header-option or
> draft-zhang-v6ops-cgn-source-trace or draft-wing-nat-reveal-option ??
> 
> -d
> 
> 
> > We keep our promises with one another - no matter what!
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Tina TSOU
> > http://tinatsou.weebly.com/contact.html
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Wing [mailto:dwing@cisco.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:35 AM
> > To: 'Tina TSOU'; pcp@ietf.org
> > Subject: RE: [pcp] Will PCP do it?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: pcp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pcp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Tina TSOU
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:36 AM
> > > To: pcp@ietf.org
> > > Subject: [pcp] Will PCP do it?
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > NAT has the private IP address, transport protocol and port # on
> the
> > > "internal" side and the public IP address, transport protocol and
> > port
> > > # on the "external" side.  I'm looking for to allow an entity
> (e.g.,
> > > not the PCP client who uses PCP to request a port number assignment
> > on
> > > the "external" side) to know the private IP address on the
> "internal"
> > > side for the given public IP address, transport protocol and port #
> > on
> > > the "external" side.
> > > Will PCP do it?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > What is the use case?
> >
> > -d
> >
> >
> > >
> > > B. R.
> > > Tina
> > > http://tinatsou.weebly.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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