Re: [Pearg] Proposed work on the topic of: IP Address Privacy

Paul Jensen <> Fri, 21 May 2021 14:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Pearg] Proposed work on the topic of: IP Address Privacy
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1) I might decrease the focus on 'replacement signals' and increase focus
on finding ways to enhance the privacy of existing uses of IP addresses.
2) I'm interested in helping, especially with the first and last work items.

On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 5:43 AM Sara Dickinson <> wrote:

> This is a belated follow up to the Interim meeting and IETF110 discussion
> on the topic of "IP Address Privacy".
> There appeared to be interest in working on one or more documents to
> capture the current status and future research directions in this space. A
> general proposal for such work could include:
> * An analysis of the current use cases, attempting to categorise/group
> such use cases where commonalities exist
> * Generating requirements for proposed 'replacement signals' from this
> analysis (these could be different for each category/group of use cases)
> * Research to evaluate existing technologies or propose new mechanisms for
> such signals
> One request was to have a broad scope for the range of use cases
> considered. We may need a first pass at the initial analysis to see if this
> is really feasible.
> The chairs would like to hear if
> 1) The above is a reasonable summary of work that folks think could/should
> be done in PEARG
> 2) If people are interested in volunteering to work on some or all of this
> Please let us know your thoughts on this topic during the next couple of
> weeks. Before the end of May, we’ll try to summarise the responses and the
> plan for moving forward.
> Best regards
> Sara, on behalf of the chairs.
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