FW: MIME Security with PGP
Blake Ramsdell <BlakeR@deming.com> Tue, 23 April 1996 22:16 UTC
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From: Blake Ramsdell <BlakeR@deming.com>
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Subject: FW: MIME Security with PGP
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 14:55:09 -0700
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Some rumblings from the PKIX list about the PGP/MIME integration effort... Blake -- Blake C. Ramsdell DEMING SOFTWARE, INC. <http://www.deming.com> >---------- >From: bjueneman@novell.com[SMTP:bjueneman@novell.com] >Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 1996 10:37 AM >To: iesg@ietf.org >Cc: ietf-pkix@tandem.com >Subject: MIME Security with PGP > >The IESG has received a request to consider MIME Security with Pretty >Good Privacy (PGP) <draft-elkins-pem-pgp-03.txt> as a Proposed >Standard. This has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product of an >IETF Working Group. > >The IESG will also consider publication of PGP Message Exchange >Formats ><draft-atkins-pgpformat-01.txt> as an Informational RFC. > > >The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits >final comments on this action. Please send any comments to the >iesg@ietf.org or ietf@cnri.reston.va.us mailing lists by May 22, 1996. > >--------------------- > >I would oppose creating such a standard, especially because it has not >been through the normal WG processes where such proposed >standards are carefully scrutinized. > >But over and above whatever technical merits or lack thereof the >proposed standard might possess, I believe that the introduction of one >more MIME security standard would lead to even more confusion in the >industry as to what should be supported. > >There is no question that PGP is the single most popular standard for >encryption and digital signatures in the Internet today. There is also no >question, at least in my mind, that the whole notion of trust that is >embedded within PGP is badly flawed, both in theory and in practice. > >I believe that the IETF and the IESG must rise above purely technical >considerations and also address the degree to which a standard in this >area will be considered (especially by those who are less than fully >informed about the issues) to be an endorsement of the underlying >mechanisms and technology. To my mind the incorporation of PGP into >MIME, even though it would undoubtedly be quite popular, would send >the wrong message and would have the effect of seriously delaying, >and perhaps even preventing, the deployment of a high quality system >such as S/MIME and/or MOSS. > >Robert R. Jueneman >Software Engineering Consultant >NetWareSecurity R&D >Novell, Inc. M/S PRV-D241 >122 East 1700 South >Provo, UT 84606 >801/429-7387 > >
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- Re: FW: MIME Security with PGP Peter Williams
- Re: FW: MIME Security with PGP Derek Atkins
- Re: FW: MIME Security with PGP Nathaniel Borenstein
- Re: FW: MIME Security with PGP Raph Levien
- Re: FW: MIME Security with PGP Peter Williams
- Re: FW: MIME Security with PGP Harald.T.Alvestrand
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