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Re: [Perc] WGLC: draft-ietf-perc-srtp-ekt-diet-06

Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> Fri, 17 November 2017 13:08 UTC

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From: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 21:08:32 +0800
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Subject: Re: [Perc] WGLC: draft-ietf-perc-srtp-ekt-diet-06
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On Nov 17, 2017 21:07, "Richard Barnes" <rlb@ipv.sx> wrote:

Emil - Can you explain what this draft has to do with repair?

EKT allows two DTLS-SRTP endpoints to establish a shared encryption key
that is not directly bound to the DTLS handshake.  It seems no more related
to repair than DTLS-SRTP itself.

On Nov 17, 2017 19:39, "Emil Ivov" <emcho@jitsi.org> wrote:

> I sent this yesterday but apparently it only went to Suhas. Posting again
> to the list (as mentioned, I am not really hoping for an answer at this
> stage and I am mainly doing it for the record):
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am assuming this will be ignored just as the original complaints but for
> the sake of completeness:
>
> No, I do not feel this draft is ready to go and it won’t be until it gets
> rid of the requirement for doing triple encryption for repair mechanisms.
>
> I dont believe that there has ever been consensus on this in the WG
> despite Suhas’s insistance otherwise.
>
> Speaking as an implementor, we are unlikely to adopt PERC until this is
> solved.
>
> Emil
>
> On Tue 31 Oct 2017 at 20:37, Suhas Nandakumar <suhasietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> This is a working group last call announcement for draft-ietf-perc-srtp-ekt-diet-06 to run through November 15.  Please send your reviews to the list as soon as possible so we can prepare for any discussion of open issues at IETF 100 in Singapore.
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> nils & suhas
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