Re: [perpass] Hello, list of political correctness and rambling, incoherent text

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Thu, 26 May 2016 20:05 UTC

Return-Path: <mellon@fugue.com>
X-Original-To: perpass@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: perpass@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7459012B069 for <perpass@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 26 May 2016 13:05:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.6
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=fugue-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id riWT_B27QzJn for <perpass@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 26 May 2016 13:05:53 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-lb0-x233.google.com (mail-lb0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FF7012D907 for <perpass@ietf.org>; Thu, 26 May 2016 13:05:53 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-lb0-x233.google.com with SMTP id h1so27223934lbj.3 for <perpass@ietf.org>; Thu, 26 May 2016 13:05:53 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fugue-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=aEOuYmKABFBiVl2DyJO7jGwe0VeFrYbPWd0y8zGsF+k=; b=tSZ+AMGAo1NA6LVsP0u3rf9B7yfLOBw2/uVr1zThvse0q+OwxL+JXjxgxKF0UBgJXc ph9J2wiC1yxQIsl/2pR7Ae2ToZywubN6vEUOk6g4IHodWwtaUoJALaQQI5flZfw5zRdK n3Ua/qDp5av+HqVyKMtobf1wf+QjxN+3aNozqs3UdlWEgI3polTDq1hw1vAK5N48SjMY KqTdJDYq24A2Nt/M5MJpSZhbxAflEObZcAg/PrQYcRhxvddMNF/tBheICRXPJExXy1u1 O4hWeifO5KnsOePkfq0WttiUljVOO/gf87j0IJOkfR4+UcNInepGhMq3AHY3bYRhhmfR Mbbw==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=aEOuYmKABFBiVl2DyJO7jGwe0VeFrYbPWd0y8zGsF+k=; b=gHjI18FGSEn2PfMVJjWSZHbMbI1wHYbV08DF1aX4vUeDNP2J1T7YWuh6yHXc98C3eg F3989m5fwr54dBRg1RhTaE4gQHJlYGAKtJNPLR/w5zVldPonEw41uX4E42d6rlib72ls qiVJD4KrBE/xrv9yWXWULYFh5pkK+Z/dIqhyWaOLOajQNgAYm860q6baFEgHO/YFE2O0 I3i59+uFrSPY2AVWdPCTqdEPzdN7EMR0rKEQlc71uWgxv3inZdDIJSXdRXjYGEYjB5cB Nf0g/s09103GfowvZEg75zktYUuLRGIFa6D4Thi+3KJ25kdyDapY2/OpV8fa8hOs/QYU 6Slg==
X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKl2bCoRNciqRlDGrSxpfBIqmDw5zxoxwQ3+1GQK+qBt87wERK2VMzR4qJSPzQSR2cJxj5blZDYtvKHXg==
X-Received: by 10.112.77.2 with SMTP id o2mr3304248lbw.83.1464293151310; Thu, 26 May 2016 13:05:51 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.25.153.135 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2016 13:05:11 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <20160526195055.GA28633@nic.fr>
References: <20160526195055.GA28633@nic.fr>
From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 16:05:11 -0400
Message-ID: <CAPt1N1m5FHfEM0O4hyBKNfPmug0sYjUxZLzinnnWkPDqFibg2g@mail.gmail.com>
To: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3a6f4219cd40533c4518e
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/perpass/7AfJ-AE2wxymSrpAG9XkFl6jEiE>
Cc: perpass <perpass@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [perpass] Hello, list of political correctness and rambling, incoherent text
X-BeenThere: perpass@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: "The perpass list is for IETF discussion of pervasive monitoring. " <perpass.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/perpass>, <mailto:perpass-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/perpass/>
List-Post: <mailto:perpass@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:perpass-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass>, <mailto:perpass-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 20:05:55 -0000

Hah!   Seems like Mr. Ruthkowski has an opinion, but would rather smear the
IETF in his blog than participate in the discussion.  I don't really blame
him for not wanting to participate in what has been a singularly un-fun
discussion, but the article basically sounds like it's what he wanted to
say to the mailing list.

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>;
wrote:

> A nice rant against us :-)
>
>
> http://www.circleid.com/posts/20160526_ietf_descent_into_the_political_rabbit_hole/
>
> _______________________________________________
> perpass mailing list
> perpass@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass
>