[Pidloc] Re: comments on draft-sarischo-6gip-aiml-security-privacy-03c
"Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" <zzhang@juniper.net> Wed, 13 November 2024 01:18 UTC
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Hi Behcet, Perhaps replace “AI/ML Networking” with “AI/ML-based Services” – like in the 3GPP study reports. Thanks. Jeffrey Juniper Business Use Only From: Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 11:57 AM To: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang <zzhang@juniper.net>; pidloc@ietf.org Cc: Roland.Schott@telekom.de; 6gip@ietf.org Subject: Re: comments on draft-sarischo-6gip-aiml-security-privacy-03c [External Email. Be cautious of content] Hi Jeffrey, Please formulate your point as a text contribution to the draft, then we will take it from there in Rev. 04. Behcet On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 6:54 AM Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang <zzhang@juniper.net<mailto:zzhang@juniper.net>> wrote: Hi Behcet, To clarify, by "AI Training network" I associate it with those purpose-built training DCs with many spine/leaf switches connecting thousands of GPUs. It could be that 6G NFs may provide real time data used for the training in that training DC, but it is still different from "AI/ML Networking". While my view may be too narrowly minded, there maybe others who have similar views, so it is good to avoid the ambiguity. Thanks. Jeffrey Juniper Business Use Only ________________________________ From: Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com<mailto:sarikaya2012@gmail.com>> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2024 3:30:22 PM To: Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang <zzhang@juniper.net<mailto:zzhang@juniper.net>> Cc: Roland.Schott@telekom.de<mailto:Roland.Schott@telekom.de> <Roland.Schott@telekom.de<mailto:Roland.Schott@telekom.de>>; 6gip@ietf.org<mailto:6gip@ietf.org> <6gip@ietf.org<mailto:6gip@ietf.org>> Subject: Re: comments on draft-sarischo-6gip-aiml-security-privacy-03c [External Email. Be cautious of content] Hi Jeffrey, On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 5:42 PM Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang <zzhang@juniper.net<mailto:zzhang@juniper.net>> wrote: Hi Bechet, Roland, The term "AI/ML Networking" is a bit confusing to me. Before I read your draft, whenever I see "AI/ML" and "networking" are used together, it's either "AI for Networking" or "Networking for AI", and in particular "AI/ML Networking" refers to the networking used for AI training. In all the AI/ML use cases that you listed for 6G, it seems that none is about AI training. It's all about AI for Networking (e.g., network analytics) or AI applications provided by 6G (e.g., Video/audio analysis). No. Actually the draft talks about (AI/ML model) training. I just checked, the draft has 44 instances of the word train. Please check again. Therefore, it may be better not to say "AI/ML Networking" but just say "AI/ML in 6G". Maybe. Thanks for your comments. Behcet Thanks. Jeffrey Juniper Business Use Only
- [Pidloc] Re: comments on draft-sarischo-6gip-aiml… Behcet Sarikaya
- [Pidloc] Re: comments on draft-sarischo-6gip-aiml… Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
- [Pidloc] Re: comments on draft-sarischo-6gip-aiml… Behcet Sarikaya