Re: [pim] IPR Disclosure: Cisco's Statement of IPR Related to draft-ietf-pim-ecmp-03

[Marshall Eubanks <[e-mail]>]

Just to be clear, I have not called for the holding up of the
document, but I would like to understand
what the claim actually is.

Please email the application to me, if you would.

Regards
Marshall

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Mike McBride <[e-mail]> wrote:
> The disclosure that IPR exists should suffice and the official RFC
> editor IPR declaration will be included in the document before it is
> published. If anyone would like details on the IPR please contact
> Heidi directly.
>
> thanks,
> mike
>
> On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Heidi Ou <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> Marshall,
>>
>> It takes about 18 months from the date of filing for an application to be
>> published. Before an application is published, it is not accessible to the
>> general public (only the attorneys listed on the customer number associated
>> with the application have access).
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> - Heidi
>>
>> On 5/16/12 7:31 PM, "Marshall Eubanks" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Adrian Farrel <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>> Yes,
>>>>
>>>> I think the number is an application number.
>>>
>>> You can retrieve applications directly from the USPTO.
>>>
>>> http://appft1.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html
>>>
>>> It says, "Data current through May 10, 2012."
>>>
>>> The IPR statement says
>>>
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1780/
>>>
>>> Cisco is the owner of US Patent Application Serial No. 12/932,604
>>> relating to the subject matter of
>>> "Protocol Independent Multicast ECMP Redirect"
>>>
>>> On the number, I get
>>>
>>> Results of Search in db for:
>>> "12/932,604": 0 applications.
>>>
>>> No application publications have matched your query
>>>
>>> (Note : Valid patent applications have numbers like
>>>  20121234567, so the above # doesn't look right to me.)
>>>
>>> On the name, the same lack of results.
>>>
>>> Results of Search in db for:
>>> "Protocol Independent Multicast ECMP Redirect": 0 applications.
>>>
>>> A _very_ cursory search finds a patent application in the database
>>> from as recently as April 26, 2012.
>>>
>>> Obviously, if the above is a bad application number, it should be
>>> corrected. In any case, I would like to see it in the USPTO DB before
>>> I come to any conclusion about this IPR statement.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Marshall
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> It would still be useful if someone could point to a copy, but I understand
>>>> this
>>>> may be hard.
>>>>
>>>> Adrian
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Heidi
>>>>> Ou
>>>>> Sent: 16 May 2012 06:33
>>>>> To: Marshall Eubanks; Mike McBride
>>>>> Cc: [e-mail]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [pim] IPR Disclosure: Cisco's Statement of IPR Related to
>>>> draft-ietf-
>>>>> pim-ecmp-03
>>>>>
>>>>> Marshall,
>>>>>
>>>>> The patent application was filed early last year with US patent office. The
>>>>> approval process may take a while.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> - Heidi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/15/12 3:34 PM, "Marshall Eubanks" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't actually find this patent on the uspto.gov web site, which I
>>>>>> assume is because it was
>>>>>> sent in yesterday. Could we wait until we actually can get a look at
>>>>>> it before we decide this (or,
>>>>>> can someone send me a URL for the patent)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Marshall
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Mike McBride <[e-mail]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> During the document write-up it was found that there is IPR on
>>>>>>> draft-ietf-pim-ecmp-03 which has now been formally disclosed. Please
>>>>>>> speak up if this alters the working group consensus to have the draft
>>>>>>> published as a Standards Track document. I will wait a week for
>>>>>>> responses before sending the write-up to Adrian.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>> mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:54 PM, IETF Secretariat <[e-mail]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Liming Wei, Heidi Ou, Vishal Arya, Sunil Jethwani, Yiqun Cai:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled
>>>>>>>> "Protocol
>>>>>>>> Independent Multicast ECMP Redirect" (draft-ietf-pim-ecmp) was submitted
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> IETF Secretariat on 2012-05-14 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of
>>>>>>>> Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures"
>>>>>>>> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1780/). The title of the IPR disclosure
>>>> is
>>>>>>>> "Cisco's Statement of IPR Related to draft-ietf-pim-ecmp-03."");
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The IETF Secretariat
>>>>>>>>
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