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Hi Authors, WG, # Gunter Van de Velde, RTG AD, comments for draft-ietf-pim-pfm-forwarding-enhancements-03 # line numbers are rendered from the idnits tool found at https://author-tools.ietf.org/api/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-pim-pfm-forwarding-enhancements-03.txt # Many thanks for the shepherd writeup from Michael McBride and for confirming that the document is within PIM WG charter. # To document Shepherd, can the motivation of making the intended document state 'experimental' be added to the shepherd write-up? Is it an experiment? If yes, can the experiment scope and context be explained? # I believe that the document is close to ready to be progressed. In the following sections I have few questions and proposed a few revised text proposals to consider. # COMMENTS #========= 13 PIM Flooding Mechanism is a generic PIM message exchange mechanism 14 that allows multicast information to be exchanged between PIM routers GV>s/mechanism/procedure/ 11 Abstract 12 13 PIM Flooding Mechanism is a generic PIM message exchange mechanism 14 that allows multicast information to be exchanged between PIM routers 15 hop-by-hop. One example is PIM Flooding Mechanism and Source 16 Discovery which allows last hop routers to learn about new sources 17 using PFM messages, without the need for initial data registers, 18 Rendezvous Points or shared trees. 19 20 This document defines a new TLV for announcing sources that allows 21 for Sub-TLVs that can be used to provide various types of 22 information. This document also defines methodologies that enhance 23 forwarding efficiency in PFM deployments. GV> What about the following alternatove abstract text: " The Protocol Independent Multicast (PIM) Flooding Mechanism (PFM) provides a generic hop-by-hop message exchange framework for distributing multicast information among PIM routers. Existing PFM procedures enable efficient source discovery without reliance on Rendezvous Points, shared trees, or initial data registers. This document specifies enhancements to PFM forwarding behavior to improve efficiency and scalability. In particular, it introduces mechanisms to reduce redundant message transmission over multiple parallel links and extends the encoding of multicast information through additional Type-Length-Value (TLV) structures and sub-TLVs to convey richer flow-related data. These enhancements optimize control-plane overhead while preserving interoperability with existing PFM procedures, enabling more efficient dissemination of multicast state in PIM networks. " 80 to originate a PFM message to distribute announcements of active GV> expand PFM at first usage. Note that RFC editor uses the following list https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=abbrev_list to check if the abreviation needs to be expanded or not. 84 Section 3.1 [RFC8364] is used for RPF checking at each router. This GV> Please expand RPF at first usage 85 RPF check is defined in Section 3.4.1 [RFC8364]. Periodic PFM 86 messages are triggered, see Section 3.4.2 [RFC8364] and exchanged to GV> There seems a contradiction in this text. First it says periodic, which means to em that periodically something happens, and that is repetitive, and then it says triggered, which means that something is done outside pof the periodical windows. I suspect the phrase will need some restructiring to convey its intent 89 Firstly, the TLV used by PFM [RFC8364] for source discovery only 90 specifies source and group information to announce an active source. 91 There is no convenient way to provide additional information about a 92 flow. 93 94 Secondly, a PIM router will flood a PFM message on all its PIM 95 enabled links. It is the recipient's responsibility to perform RPF 96 checks on all received PFM messages and then decide whether to accept 97 or drop a particular message. This means that if two routers have 98 PIM neighborships over more than one link, the same PFM messages are 99 exchanged or dropped over more than one link between the same two 100 routers. This leads to extra processing at each PIM router, 101 periodically, or every time a new source is discovered (in case of a 102 PFM-SD implementation). We can reduce the processing overhead for 103 the router-pair having PIM neighborships over multiple links. 104 105 This document discusses two new improvements in PFM message exchanges 106 between PIM routers. 107 108 1. This document defines a new TLV for announcing sources that 109 allows for Sub-TLVs that can be used for providing various types 110 of information. This enhancement is discussed in detail in 111 Section 2. 112 113 2. By leveraging PIM Router-IDs [RFC6395], PIM routers can optimize 114 PFM message exchanges when they maintain multiple neighborships 115 with the same peer router. This optimization is particularly 116 beneficial for router pairs connected via several links. When 117 two routers are the sole neighbors on multiple Point-to-Point 118 links, they need not exchange identical PFM messages across all 119 these links. Instead, PFM can achieve performance improvements 120 by utilizing Router Identifiers [RFC6395] (Router-IDs) announced 121 in PIM Hello messages to identify such scenarios and restrict 122 message exchanges to a subset of available links. This 123 enhancement is detailed in Section 3. Note that PFM message 124 behavior on shared LANs, where there are more than one neighbor 125 on the same link, remains unchanged. 126 127 These are independent enhancements and an implementation could 128 support one but not the other, however it is RECOMMENDED to implement 129 both. " The TLV defined in [RFC8364] for source discovery conveys only source and group information. It does not provide a mechanism to include additional attributes describing a multicast flow. In addition, PFM messages are flooded on all PIM-enabled links. When two routers maintain multiple adjacencies, identical PFM messages are transmitted across each link. Receivers perform RPF checks and discard duplicates as needed. This behavior introduces unnecessary processing overhead, both periodically and upon source discovery. This document defines two independent enhancements to PFM message exchange: 1) A new TLV that supports Sub-TLVs, enabling the inclusion of additional flow-related information. This enhancement is specified in Section 2. 2) An optimization for PFM message exchange across multiple adjacencies between the same pair of routers. By leveraging PIM Router-IDs [RFC6395], routers can identify such adjacencies and limit message transmission to a subset of links, reducing redundant processing. This optimization applies to point-to-point links and does not alter behavior on shared media. This enhancement is specified in Section 3. Implementations MAY support these enhancements independently; however, support for both is RECOMMENDED. " 151 PFM-SD [RFC8364] defines a Group Source Holdtime (GSH) TLV for 152 announcing active sources. However, it could be beneficial for PIM 153 routers to exchange additional data about these sources. GV> " PFM-SD [RFC8364] defines the Group Source Holdtime (GSH) TLV for announcing active sources. The GSH TLV conveys only source and group information. This document defines an extension that allows PIM routers to exchange additional information associated with multicast sources. " 157 This document defines a new Group Source Info (GSI) TLV that is used 158 similarly to the GSH TLV except that it only provides info for a 159 single source, and includes additional information about the flow in 160 Sub-TLVs. Note that the support for this TLV Type TBD1 is advertised 161 by PIM routers using the PIM Hello Option TBD2 and is discussed in 162 detail in Section 2.2 GV> " This document defines a new Group Source Info (GSI) TLV (Type TBD1). The GSI TLV is functionally similar to the GSH TLV but applies to a single (S,G) entry and supports the inclusion of Sub-TLVs to convey additional flow-specific information. Support for the GSI TLV is advertised using a PIM Hello option (TBD2), as described in Section 2.2. " 188 T: If the Transitive bit is set to 0, a router MUST NOT forward the 189 message unless it supports this TLV and all the Sub-TLVs that are 190 present in the TLV in this message. If the transitive bit is set 191 to 1, it is forwarded even if the router does not support the TLV 192 or all the Sub-TLVs present. 193 194 Type: This TLV has type TBD1. 195 196 Length: The length of the value in octets. 197 198 Group Address: The multicast group for which the source is being 199 announced. This address uses the Encoded-Group format specified 200 in [RFC7761]. 201 202 Source Address: The source address for the corresponding group. The 203 format for this address is given in the Encoded-Unicast address in 204 [RFC7761]. 205 206 Holdtime: The Holdtime (in seconds). 207 208 Type Sub-TLV 1..n: The TLV contains n Sub-TLVs, n MAY be 0. The 209 total length of the TLV (the Length field) is used to derive how 210 many octets are used for Sub-TLVs. It will be at least 4 * n 211 octets if n Sub-TLVs are present. Type Sub-TLV indicates the type 212 of the Sub-TLV. The allowed types are Sub-TLV types that are 213 specifically defined for use in the Group Source Info TLV. 214 215 Length Sub-TLV 1..n: The length of the Sub-TLV Value field in 216 octets. 217 218 Value Sub-TLV 1..n: The value of the Sub-TLV associated with the 219 type and of the specified length. GV> please " The format of the GSI TLV is as follows: T-bit (1 bit): Indicates transitivity. If set to 0, a router that does not support the TLV or any contained Sub-TLV MUST NOT forward the message. If set to 1, the message MAY be forwarded even if unsupported elements are present. Type (15 bits): Set to TBD1. Length (16 bits): The length, in octets, of the TLV value. Group Address (32 bits): The multicast group address encoded as specified in [RFC7761]. Source Address (32 bits): The unicast source address encoded as specified in [RFC7761]. Holdtime (16 bits): The lifetime, in seconds, for the advertised (S,G) information. Sub-TLVs: Zero or more Sub-TLVs MAY be included. Each Sub-TLV consists of: Type (16 bits): Identifies the Sub-TLV. Only types defined for use within the GSI TLV are valid. Length (16 bits): The length, in octets, of the Value field. Value: The content associated with the Sub-TLV type. The total length of the GSI TLV determines the number and size of included Sub-TLVs. " GV> note that the type for Group Source Info is 15 bits while the Type Sub-TLV is 16 bits GV> I see source and group address to be 32 bits. Is this IPv4 only? if yes, better spell it out that this is situation or add context around IPv6 221 2.2. Group Source Info TLV Hello option 222 223 A PIM router indicates that it supports the Group Source Info TLV 224 specified in this document by including the new Group Source Info TLV 225 Hello option in PIM hellos. 226 227 0 1 2 3 228 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 229 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ 230 | OptionType = TBD2 | Length = 0 | 231 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ 232 233 OptionType = TBD2 234 235 OptionLength = 0 " A PIM router indicates support for the GSI TLV defined in this document by including the Group Source Info TLV Hello option in PIM Hello messages. The format of the Hello option is as follows: 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | OptionType = TBD2 | Length = 0 | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ OptionType (16 bits): TBD2 OptionLength (16 bits): 0 The presence of this option signifies that the router supports the GSI TLV. " 237 2.3. Considerations for using the Group Source Info TLV 138 239 All PIM routers MUST track which neighbors announce this option. 240 This tracking is beneficial in heterogeneous networks where only 241 certain routers support the new TLV Type TBD1. Additionally, it is 242 RECOMMENDED that only Type TBD1 be used if support is available. 243 244 Consider a router capable of exchanging PFM Type TBD1 TLVs. It MUST 245 do the following: 246 247 * It MUST advertise its capability by sending PIM Hello with 248 OptionType TBD2. 249 250 * It MUST track whether all neighbors on each of its PIM interfaces 251 support this new TLV. Scope of this tracking is left to the 252 implementation. It MAY track this information even if the 253 capability on itself is removed. 254 255 * If this router is a First Hop Router (FHR), while originating a 256 PFM message, it MUST originate a Type TBD1 TLV if all neighbors on 257 the PIM interface support Type TBD1. 258 259 * If this router is an FHR, while originating a PFM message, it MUST 260 originate a Type 1 TLV [RFC8364] if at least one neighbor on the 261 PIM interface does not support Type TBD1. 262 263 * On the receipt of a Type TBD1 TLV on a Type TBD1-capable 264 intermediate router, this router MUST forward the PFM message as 265 is on the PIM interfaces where all neighbors support this new 266 type. 267 268 * If there are PIM interfaces where at least one router does not 269 support the new TLV, an intermediate router that supports Type 270 TBD1 MUST convert the Type TBD1 TLV to Type 1 TLV [RFC8364] and 271 forward it on only on those unsupported interfaces. The 272 conversion mechanism is largely left to the implementation, 273 however, in a nutshell router MUST create and send TLV Type 1 with 274 the source group and holdtime from the Type TBD1 and ignore the 275 sub-TLV. Also, if there are multiple sources for the same group, 276 then they SHOULD be put together in one TLV, and sent as Type 1. 277 However, it MUST still send Type TBD1 TLV on all interfaces where 278 the neighbors do support it. 279 280 * A single PFM message MAY contain both Type 1 and Type TBD1 TLVs. 281 If so, when forwarding to neighbors that do not support Type TBD1, 282 the intermediate router MUST convert the PFM message to Type 1 TLV 283 if it has at least one TBD1 TLV, and all instances of TBD1 TLVs 284 MUST be converted to Type 1 TLVs. GV> " 2.3. Considerations for Using the Group Source Info TLV All PIM routers MUST track which neighbors advertise support for the GSI TLV via the Hello option (Section 2.2). This tracking enables correct operation in heterogeneous deployments. If GSI TLV is supported, use of the GSI TLV (Type TBD1) is RECOMMENDED. A router that supports the GSI TLV MUST: * Advertise its capability by including the Hello option (OptionType TBD2) in PIM Hello messages. * Track, per PIM interface, whether all neighbors support the GSI TLV. The scope and persistence of this state are implementation-specific. An implementation MAY retain this state even if local capability is disabled. * If acting as a FHR, originate a Type TBD1 TLV when all neighbors on the outgoing interface support Type TBD1. * If acting as an FHR, originate a Type 1 TLV [RFC8364] when any neighbor on the outgoing interface does not support Type TBD1. * Upon receipt of a Type TBD1 TLV, MUST forward the PFM message unchanged on interfaces where all neighbors support Type TBD1. * For interfaces with at least one neighbor that does not support Type TBD1, convert each Type TBD1 TLV to a Type 1 TLV [RFC8364] and forward only on those interfaces. The conversion MUST preserve the group, source, and holdtime fields, and MUST ignore Sub-TLVs. Multiple (S,G) entries for the same group SHOULD be aggregated into a single Type 1 TLV. * A PFM message MAY contain both Type 1 and Type TBD1 TLVs. When forwarding to neighbors that do not support Type TBD1, all Type TBD1 TLVs MUST be converted to Type 1 TLVs. " 288 3.1. RFC 6395 Compliance 289 290 For the forwarding optimization in this document to be used, PIM 291 routers MUST announce a Router-ID as specified in [RFC6395]. A PIM 292 router announces the same 4-byte Router-ID in PIM hellos that it 293 sends to all neighbors on all links. It also caches the Router-IDs 294 of its neighbors, when it receives Hellos from [RFC6395] Compliant 295 PIM neighbors. This can be used to determine that different PIM 296 neighbors are really the same router. In a PIM VRF context, if the 297 router has multiple interfaces with only one neighbor per interface, 298 the router SHOULD check if those neighbors announce an [RFC6395] 299 Router-ID. Note that the assumption is that Router-IDs are unique 300 per router in a PIM domain, and each device is advertising its own 301 unique Router-ID in PIM hellos on each of its interfaces, otherwise 302 applying this optimization can cause PFM to break. GV> " To apply the forwarding optimization defined in this document, PIM routers MUST advertise a Router-ID as specified in [RFC6395]. A router MUST use the same 4-octet Router-ID in PIM Hello messages on all interfaces and MUST cache Router-IDs learned from neighbors. This enables identification of multiple adjacencies to the same router. Within a PIM VRF, when multiple interfaces each have a single neighbor, the router SHOULD verify whether those neighbors advertise the same Router-ID. Router-IDs are assumed to be unique within the PIM domain. If this assumption is violated, the optimization defined in this document MUST NOT be applied. " 304 3.2. PFM optimization Hello option 305 306 A PIM router indicates that it supports enhancement mechanisms 307 specified in this document by including the new PFM optimization 308 Hello option (Option TBD3). 309 310 0 1 2 3 311 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 312 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ 313 | OptionType = TBD3 | Length = 0 | 314 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ 315 316 OptionType = TBD3 317 318 OptionLength = 0 319 320 All PIM routers supporting forwarding optimization MUST track whether 321 it is supported by all PIM neighbors on each PIM interface. This 322 tracking is beneficial in heterogeneous networks where only certain 323 routers support the optimization. 324 325 Additionally, for each unique Router-ID received by a PIM router in a 326 PIM domain, the router MUST maintain a set of interfaces where the 327 following two conditions are met: 1. The neighbor with this Router- 328 ID is the only PIM neighbor on this interface and, 2. the neighbor is 329 advertising the PFM optimization option TBD3 on this interface. This 330 set is referred to as the PFM_OPT_IF set for each Router-ID. PFM 331 message exchange is optimized on the interfaces belonging to 332 PFM_OPT_IF for each Router-ID and is discussed in Section 3.4. GV> " 3.2. PFM Optimization Hello Option A PIM router indicates support for the forwarding optimization by including the PFM Optimization Hello option (OptionType TBD3) in PIM Hello messages. 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ | OptionType = TBD3 | Length = 0 | +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ OptionType (16 bits): TBD3 OptionLength (16 bits): 0 A router that supports this optimization MUST track, per interface, whether all neighbors support the option. For each learned Router-ID, the router MUST maintain a set of interfaces, denoted PFM_OPT_IF, that satisfy both of the following conditions: * The neighbor with this Router-ID is the sole PIM neighbor on the interface. * The neighbor advertises the PFM Optimization option (TBD3) on that interface. PFM message exchange MAY be optimized on interfaces in the PFM_OPT_IF set. " 354 3.4. PFM message handling with Relaxed-RPF enabled 355 356 Consider a topology where two PIM routers maintain multiple PIM 357 neighborships over several links within the same PIM domain, and are 358 the only two routers on these links, either a P2P link, or 2 PIM 359 neighbors on a LAN. On P2P links, each router sees only one 360 neighbor, but on shared LANs, routers may see multiple neighbors. An 361 example of such a topology is illustrated in Figure 1. Between 362 Router A and Router B, there are multiple links - 3 P2P links and 2 363 shared LANs. Traditionally, each of the routers in Figure 1 will 364 send out PFM messages out over all the links to its neighbor. RPF 365 checks are one of the commonly used ways to prevent loops, hence the 366 recipient router performs an RPF check and accepts only on one link, 367 thereby dropping packets from all the others. Since the sender does 368 not know which link will be chosen as the RPF-source on the neighbor, 369 it cannot choose one of the links, without knowing its neighbor's 370 decision. But this can be optimized as follows. 371 372 Assume both routers A and B are advertising their respective Router- 373 IDs on all links. When the optimizations specified in 374 Section Section 3.2 are in effect, On both routers A and B, 375 PFM_OPT_IF = {L1, L2, L3}. 356 377 If the Relaxed-RPF optimization is advertised by both routers, the 378 sender MUST choose one link from their PFM_OPT_IF set and send and 379 forward PFM messages to its neighbor using only that link. On shared 380 LANs, the sender MUST send PFM messages as normal since optimization 381 cannot be applied when there are more than two routers on the network 382 segment. In other words, the scope of optimization is limited to 383 links present in the PFM_OPT_IF set for each Router-ID. 384 385 For example, referring to Figure 1, if Router A is forwarding or 386 originating a PFM message, it MUST send the message on one link out 387 of Links L1, L2, or L3. Router A also MUST send the message on both 388 LAN 1 and LAN 2 to ensure Routers C and D receive the message. This 389 selective behavior reduces PFM message processing overhead on the 390 Point-to-Point links. The mechanism to choose a link from the 391 PFM_OPT_IF set is left to the implementation. 392 393 When a router that supports the Relaxed-RPF optimization receives a 394 PFM message, it MUST first determine the expected RPF interface for 395 the message using standard RPF calculations. If the message was 396 received on a link belonging to the PFM_OPT_IF set AND both the 397 sender and receiver support Relaxed-RPF optimization, the receiver 398 MUST accept the message regardless of the RPF check result. In all 399 other cases, the receiver MUST perform normal RPF validation and only 400 accept the message if it arrives on the correct RPF interface. 401 402 The optimization mechanism relies heavily on a router's insight into 403 whether all neighbors on each PIM interface support the TLV Type TBD3 404 and/or Relaxed-RPF optimization. All checks can be done at the time 405 when a PFM message is forwarded, but it is possible to perform most 406 checks when there are neighbor changes, so that the processing at 407 forwarding time can be minimized. The following scenarios MUST be 408 handled: 409 410 Adding a new neighbor on any link: If the neighbor being added is 411 the first neighbor on this link, the router MUST check whether 412 this neighbor supports the optimization and announces a Router-ID. 413 If both conditions hold TRUE, this router MUST check whether 414 PFM_OPT_IF exists for this Router-ID. This means that the newly 415 added neighbor is also the sole neighbor on at least one other 416 link. Therefore, forwarding optimization MUST be enabled on this 417 link by adding it to the existing PFM_OPT_IF set for that Router- 418 ID. If PFM_OPT_IF does not exist for this Router-ID, it MUST be 419 created, and this link MUST be added to the set. If the neighbor 420 being added is the second neighbor on this link, and forwarding 421 optimization was previously enabled for the first neighbor, it 422 MUST now be disabled for that Router-ID on this link. Hence this 423 link MUST be removed from the PFM_OPT_IF set for the first 424 neighbor's Router-ID. 425 426 Neighbor removal on a link: When a PIM neighbor is removed on a 427 link, and there is exactly one remaining neighbor, it MUST be 428 checked whether the remaining neighbor supports the forwarding 429 optimization and is advertising a Router-ID. If all three 430 conditions hold TRUE ((i) sole remaining neighbor that (ii) 431 supports forwarding optimization, and (iii) is advertising a 432 Router-ID), this router must check whether PFM_OPT_IF exists for 433 this Router-ID. If the PFM_OPT_IF set for this Router-ID does not 434 exist, it MUST be created; otherwise, the link MUST be added to 435 the existing set. 436 437 Neighbor starts/stops advertising Router-ID: When a PIM neighbor 438 starts advertising a Router-ID on this link, it MUST be checked 439 whether this neighbor also supports the forwarding optimization 440 (TBD3) on this link and whether it is the sole neighbor on this 441 link. If both conditions hold TRUE, this router MUST check 442 whether PFM_OPT_IF exists for this Router-ID. If it does not 443 exist, create PFM_OPT_IF for this Router-ID and this link MUST be 444 added to the set. If PFM_OPT_IF already exists, add this link to 445 the existing set. When a PIM neighbor stops advertising a Router- 446 ID on this link and is still forwarding optimization capable while 447 being the sole neighbor on this link, this link MUST be removed 448 from the PFM_OPT_IF set for this Router-ID. If the PFM_OPT_IF set 449 for this Router-ID becomes empty, it MUST be deleted. 450 451 Neighbor starts/stops advertising forwarding optimization: When a 452 PIM neighbor starts advertising the forwarding optimization (TBD3) 453 on this link, it MUST be checked whether this neighbor is the sole 454 neighbor on this link and whether it is advertising its Router-ID 455 on this link. If both conditions hold TRUE, this router MUST 456 check whether PFM_OPT_IF exists for this Router-ID. If it does 457 not exist, create PFM_OPT_IF for this Router-ID and this link MUST 458 be added to the set. If PFM_OPT_IF already exists, add this link 459 to the existing set. When a PIM neighbor stops advertising the 460 forwarding optimization (TBD3) on this link, while it is still 461 advertising a non-zero Router-ID and is the sole neighbor on this 462 link, this link MUST be removed from the PFM_OPT_IF set for this 463 Router-ID. If the PFM_OPT_IF set for this Router-ID becomes 464 empty, it MUST be deleted. 465 466 The scenarios described above apply during network and 467 configurations changes as well as software upgrades or downgrades, 468 that could lead to changes in neighbor capabilities. These 469 changes will be reflected in Hello messages with the relevant 470 options. It is essential to consistently maintain the PFM_OPT_IF 471 set for each non-zero Router-ID with any such changes. GV> " 3.4. PFM Message Handling with Relaxed-RPF When two routers maintain multiple adjacencies and are the only neighbors on those links, PFM messages are typically transmitted on all links and filtered by RPF checks at the receiver. This results in redundant processing. If both routers advertise Router-IDs and support the optimization, each router forms a PFM_OPT_IF set containing eligible interfaces. When Relaxed-RPF is enabled: * A sender MUST select a single interface from its PFM_OPT_IF set for PFM transmission to that neighbor. The selection method is implementation-specific. * On shared media with more than two neighbors, the sender MUST transmit PFM messages on all interfaces. * A receiver that supports Relaxed-RPF MUST: ** Determine the expected RPF interface using standard procedures. ** Accept a PFM message received on any interface in the PFM_OPT_IF set if both sender and receiver support the optimization. ** Otherwise, perform standard RPF validation. Referring to Figure 1, when Router A originates or forwards a PFM message, it MUST transmit the message on exactly one of links L1, L2, or L3. Router A MUST also transmit the message on LAN 1 and LAN 2 to ensure delivery to Routers C and D. This behavior reduces processing overhead on point-to-point links. The selection of the interface from the PFM_OPT_IF set is implementation-specific. 3.5. Maintenance of PFM_OPT_IF Routers MUST update the PFM_OPT_IF set upon neighbor or capability changes: * Neighbor Addition: ** If the new neighbor is the sole neighbor on the interface and advertises both a Router-ID and the optimization option, the interface MUST be added to the corresponding PFM_OPT_IF set. If no set exists, it MUST be created. ** If a second neighbor appears on the interface, the interface MUST be removed from the PFM_OPT_IF set. * Neighbor Removal: ** If one neighbor remains and it advertises both a Router-ID and the optimization option, the interface MUST be added to the PFM_OPT_IF set. * Router-ID Changes: ** If a neighbor starts advertising a Router-ID and satisfies all conditions, the interface MUST be added to the PFM_OPT_IF set. ** If a neighbor stops advertising a Router-ID, the interface MUST be removed. If the set becomes empty, it MUST be deleted. * Optimization Capability Changes: ** If a neighbor starts advertising the optimization option and satisfies all conditions, the interface MUST be added to the PFM_OPT_IF set. ** If a neighbor stops advertising the option, the interface MUST be removed. If the set becomes empty, it MUST be deleted. These procedures apply during topology changes, configuration updates, and software upgrades or downgrades. Routers MUST maintain accurate PFM_OPT_IF state for each Router-ID. " 510 PIM Flooding Mechanism Group Source Info Message Types 512 Type Name Reference 513 ------------------------------------------------------ 514 0 Reserved [This document] 515 1-32767 Unassigned GV> Do you want to give the name "Reserved" to this message type? There may be a better more intuitive/descriptive name. Kind Regards, Gunter Van de Velde Routing Area Director
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