Re: [pim] draft-venaas-pim-reserved-bits-01 Adoption Call

"Holland, Jake" <jholland@akamai.com> Mon, 24 September 2018 16:59 UTC

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From: "Holland, Jake" <jholland@akamai.com>
To: Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com>, "zhang.zheng" <zhang.zheng@zte.com.cn>
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Subject: Re: [pim] draft-venaas-pim-reserved-bits-01 Adoption Call
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I support adoption.

I wasn't there for the discussion, but it seems reasonable to expect we'll run out of type space, and it seems to me like a problem worth fixing before it blocks other work.

Best,
Jake

On 2018-09-21, 17:54, "Stig Venaas" <stig@venaas.com> wrote:

    Hi
    
    I'm responding to this as an author, not as chair.
    
    I'm hoping for more responses, whether positive or negative. It is
    frustrating how silent the WG is.
    
    My impression from the discussion at the meeting was that people are
    OK with the draft itself, but some people think that we should not
    work on extending the type space until it is needed. If people prefer,
    I could split this draft into one draft to create the registry for
    reserved bits which is purely procedural/administrative, and another
    for the type space extension. Let me know if you have thoughts on
    this.
    
    Do people agree that the method of extending the type space is
    reasonable, and that we should not assign any new types without first
    extending the type space? If we do not, we will have less bits
    available for type extension.
    
    There are proposals like draft-ramki-pim-null-register-packing that
    would require new types. I'm hoping people that support that draft, or
    want new types for other reasons would support extending the type
    space.
    
    Thoughts? I need your feedback so I know what the WG wants me to do
    with this draft, if anything.
    
    Thanks,
    Stig
    
    On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 5:30 PM <zhang.zheng@zte.com.cn> wrote:
    >
    > Support.
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    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Sandy
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    > 原始邮件
    > 发件人:MichaelMcBride <Michael.McBride@huawei.com>
    > 收件人:pim@ietf.org <pim@ietf.org>
    > 日 期 :2018年09月18日 06:00
    > 主 题 :[pim] draft-venaas-pim-reserved-bits-01 Adoption Call
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    > Hello pimers,
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    > Today begins a two week call for adoption of draft-venaas-pim-reserved-bits-01. We had a good discussion on this draft in Montreal and now need formal support/non-support feedback from you on adoption of this draft.
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    > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-venaas-pim-reserved-bits/
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