Re: WG Last Call: SHA-224
Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Mon, 29 March 2004 14:46 UTC
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 08:21:10 -0500
To: Paul Hoffman / IMC <phoffman@imc.org>, Tim Polk <tim.polk@nist.gov>, ietf-pkix@imc.org
From: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
Subject: Re: WG Last Call: SHA-224
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Paul: I understand that the computation expense is the same as SHA-256. However, as you point out, there are times that a shorter hash value is desirable. I would be willing to add a paragraph to the security considerations that point out the equal computational cost for SHA-256 if that would make you feel better. Russ At 10:52 AM 3/28/2004 -0800, Paul Hoffman / IMC wrote: >At 4:14 PM -0500 3/26/04, Tim Polk wrote: >>This specification will provide a stable reference for the SHA-224 >>algorithm, which is needed by several IETF specifications. > >In searching the Internet Drafts directory, only four documents even >mention SHA-224: > >eastlake-xmldsig-uri: uses it as part of an exhaustive list, not a requirement > >pkix-rsa-pkalgs: uses it as part of an exhaustive list, not a requirement > >pkix-sha224: the document in question > >smime-cms-rsa-kem: uses it but does not justify why it needs it instead of >SHA-256 > >The train may have left the station on this one, but it is really pretty >silly. The only possible use is in severely bandwidth-restricted >environments where an extra 32 bytes is important. None of the documents >above discuss any such environments. > >It is silly to say that SHA-256 doesn't "match" 112 bits of encryption >strength. There is no disadvantage to having more bits of randomness, >particularly because TripleDES doesn't use 112-bit blocks. > >This document would be well-served to have an additional paragraph >explaining that systems that use TripleDES and need a matching hash >algorithm SHOULD use SHA-256, not SHA-224, unless they are in severely >bandwidth-restricted environments. > >--Paul Hoffman, Director >--Internet Mail Consortium >
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