RE: Legal Notice on RFC3161 Uses and their possible infringement against Glassey/Mcneil Patents(et al).

"Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@verisign.com> Fri, 26 March 2004 01:40 UTC

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From: "Hallam-Baker, Phillip" <pbaker@verisign.com>
To: 'todd glassey' <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>, iesg@ietf.org, ietf-pkix@imc.org
Subject: RE: Legal Notice on RFC3161 Uses and their possible infringement against Glassey/Mcneil Patents(et al).
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:39:01 -0800
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Could some remind us which of the claims in Habber/Stornetta were
invalidated during the Entrust lawsuit?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ietf-pkix@mail.imc.org
> [mailto:owner-ietf-pkix@mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of todd glassey
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 4:29 PM
> To: iesg@ietf.org; ietf-pkix@imc.org
> Subject: Legal Notice on RFC3161 Uses and their possible infringement
> against Glassey/Mcneil Patents(et al).
> 
> 
> 
> Lets talk about legal stuff for a minute... and I don't 
> really need anyone
> to respond to this unless they want to do so with my lawyers.
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Be advised that I am claiming there is an unauthorized 
> identified use of
> RFC3161 that appears to violate parts of the Glassey/McNeil 
> Timestamping
> patent ("Controlling Access to Stored Information" - US 6370629 and EP
> 0997808, et al).  As such, I am formally putting the 
> IETF/IESG on notice
> thereof.
> 
> Further, these same uses may also violate any number of other 
> "Receipt"
> patents issued (including, but not limited to, the original 
> Fisher and Haber
> patents; those of others in the Time Management and in the XML
> Receipt Business), as well as other patents still in the works.
> 
> In light of this notification, please be aware that it is the 
> responsibility
> of the developers to do proper diligence prior to releasing 
> commercial or
> free services using RFC3161 as its base.
> 
> Be advised that we are currently very concerned. If any such RFC3161
> application is used for evidentiary purposes or if it is used 
> to enable
> control of any access to any data, or data in any record structure,
> such use may be in violation of these globally issued patents.
> 
> Obviously, in instances where such violation is evident, we 
> will take swift
> legal steps to protect our patent(s) while preventing any further
> unauthorized use. This would include any violations and 
> damages resulting
> from all those responsible, even National Governments using 
> RFC3161 for
> commercial and audit purposes (including the EU and its 
> member States).
> 
> Please feel free to have the IETF's or IESG's or any other appropriate
> attorney (or Developers wishing to avoid the legal complications of an
> authorized use) contact me regarding this matter for my point 
> of service so
> appropriate licensing can be arranged to protect these 
> patents against such
> infringement involving those Developer's Application Systems .
> 
> Todd Glassey
> Patent Rights Owner and Inventor -US 6370629
>