Re: [pkix] [apps-discuss] character repertoire for fragment identifiers, was: Fwd: FW: New Version Notification for draft-kerwin-file-scheme-13.txt

"Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Tue, 13 January 2015 09:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [pkix] [apps-discuss] character repertoire for fragment identifiers, was: Fwd: FW: New Version Notification for draft-kerwin-file-scheme-13.txt
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On 2015/01/13 03:15, Nico Williams wrote:

> The href attribute in HTML is one thing.  "_All_ URI/IRI slots" is
> another.
>
> I don't object to versioning protocols and data formats to change
> specific URI slots into IRI slots.
>
> Thus I have no objection to -say- the href attribute in HTML being made
> into an IRI slot (with or without versioning of HTML -- that being an
> issue for W3C, though if it were the IETF we'd want to do something
> better than a flag day).

There was no flag day for HTML. IRIs didn't exist (neither the spec nor 
the name) when HTML 4.0 became a Recommendation in 1997 
(http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40-971218/). But there's implementation 
advice in that spec at 
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40-971218/appendix/notes.html#h-B.2.1 that 
amounts to essentially the same conversion as the one from IRIs to URIs 
defined later in RFC 3987. Browsers took up that hint sooner or later.

Regards,   Martin.