Howto use publicKeyMac in CRMF PoP?

[Suomela Tero <[e-mail]>]

Could someone explain how publicKeyMac should be used in CRMF PoP?

I have problems interpreting the RFC 4211/4.1 item 1, which states:
"
   1.  The certificate subject has not yet established an authenticated
       identity with a CA/RA, but has a password and identity string
       from the CA/RA.  In this case, the POPOSigningKeyInput structure
       would be filled out using the publicKeyMAC choice for authInfo,
       and the password and identity would be used to compute the
       publicKeyMAC value....
"

How exactly should the identity be used in publicKeyMac calculation?

A bit later there is:
"
           publicKeyMAC        PKMACValue },
           -- used if no authenticated GeneralName currently exists for
           -- the sender; publicKeyMAC contains a password-based MAC
           -- on the DER-encoded value of publicKey
"

So the MAC is calculated over the public key and there is no mention
of identity. I could not find any explanation of how this identity
should be used or where it would be placed in the CRMF.
And then, how would the CA map the request to the used password
in order to verify the MAC?

The CMP RFC 4210 appendix D.4 says:
"
   The end entity has an out-of-band interaction with the CA/RA.  This
   transaction established the shared secret, the referenceNumber and
   OPTIONALLY the distinguished name used for both sender and subject
   name in the certificate template.
"

Thinking this from the CMP point of view, is there any point in
the CRMF's identity string, or should we just always use the
optional sender/subject establishment with the shared secret?

Or should the CRMF be interpreted so that the "identity" is actually
the reference number and the password is the shared secret,
and then forget about the usage of "identity" in the MAC computation?
(I would prefer this interpretation if no sender/subject is present)

Or did I just mis something obvious in the specs?

Regards,
Tero Suomela




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Could someone explain how publicKeyMac should be used in CRMF PoP?

I have problems interpreting the RFC 4211/4.1 item 1, which states:
"
   1.  The certificate subject has not yet established an authenticated
       identity with a CA/RA, but has a password and identity string
       from the CA/RA.  In this case, the POPOSigningKeyInput structure
       would be filled out using the publicKeyMAC choice for authInfo,
       and the password and identity would be used to compute the
       publicKeyMAC value....
"

How exactly should the identity be used in publicKeyMac calculation?

A bit later there is:
"
           publicKeyMAC        PKMACValue },
           -- used if no authenticated GeneralName currently exists for
           -- the sender; publicKeyMAC contains a password-based MAC
           -- on the DER-encoded value of publicKey
"

So the MAC is calculated over the public key and there is no mention
of identity. I could not find any explanation of how this identity
should be used or where it would be placed in the CRMF.
And then, how would the CA map the request to the used password
in order to verify the MAC?

The CMP RFC 4210 appendix D.4 says:
"
   The end entity has an out-of-band interaction with the CA/RA.  This
   transaction established the shared secret, the referenceNumber and
   OPTIONALLY the distinguished name used for both sender and subject
   name in the certificate template.
"

Thinking this from the CMP point of view, is there any point in
the CRMF's identity string, or should we just always use the
optional sender/subject establishment with the shared secret?

Or should the CRMF be interpreted so that the "identity" is actually
the reference number and the password is the shared secret,
and then forget about the usage of "identity" in the MAC computation?
(I would prefer this interpretation if no sender/subject is present)

Or did I just mis something obvious in the specs?

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>  - adds an ASN.1 module....

Can you (or anybody else) please translate this ASN.1 into
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Since the CMC I-D trio has been approved by the IESG, I updated the 
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1.  I would omit SubjectPublicKeyInfo from the ASN.1 module.  At a minimum
it needs to be tagged as duplicate ASN.1.  It is fine to put it into the
text, but you are not updating 3280bis.

2.  Extensibility on ECPKAlgorithms depends on if you think that a future
version adding additional ECC algorithms would update/replace this document
or create a new document just for those new algorithms.  If the former then
it should be extensible, if the later then it should not be extensible.

3.  Please talk to Paul Hoffman and myself about the prefixes we are looking
at for putting on objects for easy identification of the object type
(similar to id- for all object identifiers).

4.  Let's talk about the possibility of using extensibility in ASN.1 to
reflect the MUST/SHOULD & MAY levels.

5.  If I do an extension of SpecifiedCurve, do you think that I should
change the value of version?  If yes then it should not have a constraint on
this field.

6.  Need to be more specific about how the update to SpecifiedCurveVersion
is to be done and registered.  Who actually owns this OID and structure?

7.  How is one suppose to determine the recipient's ability to process
absent parameters for hash functions?   This statement would make me always
include the NULL parameters just in case.

8.  It is not clear to me that if you are going to update 3279, you should
not be forced to replace the entire ASN.1 module of 3279 in this document.
Otherwise you get into the situation where one needs to a Chinese menu of
selection from the module.

Jim





> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] [mailto:owner-ietf-
> [e-mail]] On Behalf Of Turner, Sean P.
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 5:21 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-pkix-ecc-subpubkeyinfo-04.txt
> 
> 
> This draft:
> 
>  - removes text from 2.1.1.2.3 that did not belong (from Alfred Hines -
> I
> should have fixed this in the last version)
> 
>  - adds the ecDH and ecMQV "family" OIDs (thanks Dan)
> 
>  - changes text to correctly indicate the first byte of the key (not
> the
> first two) indicates whether the key is compressed or not.
> 
>  - adds an ASN.1 module.  The module compiles with the a2c compiler (I
> just
> stuck in a dummy oid for the module). During the ASN.1 compile I ran in
> two
> errors: 1) I consistently message up the extensibility by having |...
> as
> opposed to ,... (changed this throughout the document) 2) the
> SpecifiedCurverVersion, which is an INTEGER, was incorrectly made
> extensible
> with ,... (fixed now).
> 
> If there are no comments on the ASN.1 module, then the only remaining
> item
> is to get an OID for the ASN.1 module.
> 
> spt
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [e-mail]
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> >To: [e-mail]
> >Cc: [e-mail]
> >Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-pkix-ecc-subpubkeyinfo-04.txt
> >
> >A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
> >Internet-Drafts directories.
> >This draft is a work item of the Public-Key Infrastructure
> >(X.509) Working Group of the IETF.
> >
> >	Title		: Elliptic Curve Cryptography Subject
> >Public Key Information
> >	Author(s)	: S. Turner, K. Yiu, D. Brown, R.
> >Housley, W. Polk
> >	Filename	: draft-ietf-pkix-ecc-subpubkeyinfo-04.txt
> >	Pages		: 25
> >	Date		: 2008-3-11
> >
> >This document specifies the syntax and semantics for the Subject
> >   Public Key Information field in certificates that support Elliptic
> >   Curve Cryptography.  This document updates RFC 3279.
> >
> >A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pkix-ecc-subpubk
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> >
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The IESG has approved the following documents:

- 'Certificate Management Messages over CMS '
   <draft-ietf-pkix-2797-bis-07.txt> as a Proposed Standard
- 'Certificate Managmement Messages over CMS (CMC): Complience 
   Requirements '
   <draft-ietf-pkix-cmc-compl-05.txt> as a Proposed Standard
- 'Certificate Management over CMS (CMC): Transport Protocols '
   <draft-ietf-pkix-cmc-trans-08.txt> as a Proposed Standard

These documents are products of the Public-Key Infrastructure (X.509) 
Working Group. 

The IESG contact persons are Tim Polk and Sam Hartman.

A URL of this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pkix-2797-bis-07.txt

Technical Summary

  This document series obsoletes RFC 2797, "Certificate Management
  Protocol over CMS" (CMC). The update to CMC addresses two needs within
  the Internet PKI community:

    1.  The need for an interface to public key certification
        products and services based on CMS and PKCS #10; and

    2.  The need in S/MIME for a certificate enrollment protocol
        for DSA-signed certificates with Diffie-Hellman public keys.

  The updated CMC protocol preserves full backwards compatibility with
  RFC 2797.  No features defined in RFC 2797 have been changed, only new
  features have been added.

  The compliance document updates and expands the compliance
  requirements specified in RFC 2797.  The compliance requirements
  specified in this document have expanded scope and increased detail to
  ensure interoperability of future implementations.

  The transport protocol document updates the transport mechanisms
  defined in RFC 2797.  The technical content is essentially unchanged
  from RFC 2797, but was separated from the message formats for process
  reasons.  The transport mechanisms described in this document are
  HTTP, file, mail, and TCP.

Working Group Summary

  These documents are a product of the PKIX Working Group, which has
  extensively reviewed this technical content.  All PKIX WG Last Call
  issues have been resolved.  Discussion during PKIX WG Last Call
  demonstrated working group consensus.  This document has strong
  PKIX WG support.

Protocol Quality

  These documents reflect implementation experience, and address
  important details not previously included in RFC 2797.  Based on the
  implementation experience, this specification is complete, and it is
  sufficient to achieve expected levels of interoperability.

  This document series was reviewed by Russ Housley and Tim Polk
  for the IESG.

RFC Editor Note

In Section 5 of draft-ietf-pkix-cmc-trans, please make the
following substitution:

OLD:

   The connection is closed by the client after recieving a final
   response.  If a second round of messages is needed, the client can
   either re-use the same connection or use a new one.

NEW:

The client closes a connection after receiving a response, or it
issues another request to the server using the same connection.
Reusing one connection for multiple successive requests, instead of
opening multiple connections that are only used for a single
request, is RECOMMENDED for performance and resource conservation
reasons. A server MAY close a connection after it has been idle for
some period of time; this timeout would typically be several
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This draft:

 - removes text from 2.1.1.2.3 that did not belong (from Alfred Hines - I
should have fixed this in the last version)

 - adds the ecDH and ecMQV "family" OIDs (thanks Dan)

 - changes text to correctly indicate the first byte of the key (not the
first two) indicates whether the key is compressed or not.

 - adds an ASN.1 module.  The module compiles with the a2c compiler (I just
stuck in a dummy oid for the module). During the ASN.1 compile I ran in two
errors: 1) I consistently message up the extensibility by having |... as
opposed to ,... (changed this throughout the document) 2) the
SpecifiedCurverVersion, which is an INTEGER, was incorrectly made extensible
with ,... (fixed now).

If there are no comments on the ASN.1 module, then the only remaining item
is to get an OID for the ASN.1 module.

spt

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>	Title		: Elliptic Curve Cryptography Subject 
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>	Filename	: draft-ietf-pkix-ecc-subpubkeyinfo-04.txt
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Folks,

Minutes from this morning's PKIX meeting have been posted.  Please 
send me comments and corrections over the next two weeks.

Thanks,

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	Filename        : draft-ietf-pkix-cmc-trans-08.txt
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	Date            : 2008-03-10

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I'm missing the following slides for PKIX tomorrow:

2.2 New ASN.1 for PKIX, Paul Hoffman
3.2 PKI Resource Query Protocol (PRQP), Massimiliano Pala
3.3 Other Certificates Extension, Stephen Farrell
3.5 PKIX Considerations for Usable Security, Scott Rea
3.6 Clearance and CA Clearance Constraints, Sean Turner

Please send them to me ASAP.


Stefan Santesson
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I&#8217;m missing the following slides for
PKIX tomorrow:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>2.2 New ASN.1 for PKIX, Paul Hoffman<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>3.2 PKI Resource Query Protocol (PRQP),
Massimiliano Pala<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>3.3 Other Certificates Extension, Stephen
Farrell<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>3.5 PKIX Considerations for Usable
Security, Scott Rea<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>3.6 Clearance and CA Clearance Constraints,
Sean Turner<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Please send them to me ASAP.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#400040'>Senior Program Manager</span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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A gently reminder for all presenters to send me your slides well in time of the meeting.

Current agenda:
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08mar/agenda/pkix.txt

Meeting materials page:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/71/materials.html

Thank you.


Stefan Santesson
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Windows Security, Standards


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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>A gently reminder for all presenters to
send me your slides well in time of the meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Current agenda:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><a
href="http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08mar/agenda/pkix.txt">http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08mar/agenda/pkix.txt</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Meeting materials page:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><a
href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/71/materials.html">https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/71/materials.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Thank you. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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A preliminary agenda has been uploaded.

http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/08mar/agenda/pkix.txt

I have accommodated all requests for items that I have received.
If you have requested a slot but not received one, then it is because I didn't receive your request (or missed it).

Please let me know if I missed anything or you would like to suggest any changes.

As we kick off directly on Monday morning, I need all presentations before 4 p.m the day before the meeting (Sunday local Philadelphia time).


Stefan Santesson
Senior Program Manager
Windows Security, Standards

From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Stefan Santesson
Sent: den 20 februari 2008 09:05
To: pkix
Subject: Call for agenda items, Philadelphia IETF

Time to set the agenda for the Philadelphia PKIX meeting.

Anyone wanting a slot should send me an e-mail as soon as possible, no later than EOD Wednesday next week (Feb 27).
As usual I want the lead editor for every current pkix draft to tell me if they want a slot or not.

We are currently scheduled as a Monday morning session from 0900-1130, which means two things.
1) We have 2.5 hours available which should be plenty of time.
2) We need to have everything set, including presentations sent to me by Sunday night.


Stefan Santesson
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<p class=MsoNormal><a
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>I have accommodated all
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>If you have requested
a slot but not received one, then it is because I didn&#8217;t receive your request
(or missed it).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>Please let me know if
I missed anything or you would like to suggest any changes.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>As we kick off
directly on Monday morning, I need all presentations before 4 p.m the day before
the meeting (Sunday local Philadelphia time).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#400040'>Senior Program Manager</span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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[mailto:[e-mail]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Stefan Santesson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> den 20 februari 2008 09:05<br>
<b>To:</b> pkix<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Call for agenda items, Philadelphia IETF<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Time to set the agenda for the Philadelphia
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Anyone wanting a slot should send me an
e-mail as soon as possible, no later than EOD Wednesday next week (Feb 27).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>As usual I want the lead editor for every
current pkix draft to tell me if they want a slot or not.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>We are currently scheduled as a Monday
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>1) We have 2.5 hours available which should
be plenty of time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>2) We need to have everything set,
including presentations sent to me by Sunday night.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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Subject: Breakthrough in Men's enhancement
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 07:43:23 -0000
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