Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-13: (with DISCUSS)

Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Tue, 11 February 2014 06:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-13: (with DISCUSS)
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Hi Qin,

That works for me.

As a new PM-DIR member and someone deeply involved in XRBLOCK, do I 
guess correctly that you have checked for naming collisions, and also 
some sort of naming consistency in the XRBLOCK metrics?

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-claise-ippm-perf-metric-registry-01#section-4 
might help as an inventory as of Oct 2013

Regards, Benoit.
>
> Hi, Benoit and Al:
>
> Yes, I confirmed to make change to Appendix A of 
> draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe. I am not supposed to change 
> calculation algorithm name in this draft.
>
> Here is my proposed change to Appendix( See attached) which I have 
> sent to my authors for confirmation.
>
> Hope this clarify.
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> Regards!
>
> -Qin
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> *From:*Benoit Claise [mailto:bclaise@cisco.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:57 PM
> *To:* MORTON, ALFRED C (AL); pm-dir@ietf.org; Qin Wu
> *Subject:* Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Benoit Claise's Discuss on 
> draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-13: (with DISCUSS)
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> Hi Al,
>
> I meant the different "metric name" entries in Appendix A of the draft.
> Qin Wu, in cc, agreed to improve those.
> We should avoid collisions with the exist XR block defined metrics.
>
> Regards, Benoit
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>     Hi Benoit,
>
>     it's not clear what registry you are asking about:
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>     The IANA section of this draft references and existing registry for
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>     RTCP-XR metrics (defined in RFC 3611), which has attribute names
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>     and long-form attribute names for the "MOS Metrics block".
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>     Also, there's a new registry of calculation algorithms defined in
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>     the IANA section:
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>        o  Initial assignments are as follows:
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>     Name Name Description                  Reference    Type
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>     ========= ===================================   ==========    ====
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>     P564 ITU-T P.564 Compliant Algorithm        [P.564] Voice
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>     G107 ITU-T G.107                            [G.107] Voice
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>     TS101_329  ETSI TS 101 329-5 Annex E              [ETSI]         Voice
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>     JJ201_1    TTC JJ201.1                            [TTC]          Voice
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>     G107_1 ITU-T G.107.1                          [G.107.1] Voice
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>     P862 ITU-T P.862                            [P.862] Voice
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>     P862_2 ITU-T P.862.2                          [P.862.2] Voice
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>     P863 ITU-T P.863                            [P.863] Voice
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>     P1201_1 ITU-T P.1201.1                     [P.1201.1] Multimedia
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>     P1201_2 ITU-T P.1201.2                     [P.1201.2] Multimedia
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>     P1202_1 ITU-T P.1202.1                     [P.1202.1] Video
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>     P1202_2 ITU-T P.1202.2                     [P.1202.2] Video
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>     Which one of these, or other naming convention are you talking about?
>
>     Al
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>     *From:*pm-dir [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of
>     *Benoit Claise
>     *Sent:* Thursday, February 06, 2014 9:09 AM
>     *To:* pm-dir@ietf.org <mailto:pm-dir@ietf.org>
>     *Subject:* [pm-dir] Fwd: Benoit Claise's Discuss on
>     draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-13: (with DISCUSS)
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>     PM-Dir,
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>     I believe that we need a little bit of consistency regarding the
>     naming convention for the perf. metrics.
>     Specifically because those xrblock perf. metrics should be the
>     basis for an IETF registry.
>     Feedback?
>
>     Regards, Benoit
>
>
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>     The metric names in the registry are not specific enough: payload type,
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>     calculation identifier metric, segment type, and potentially MOS. I guess
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>     they should say something about RTP. Let me file this DISCUSS while I
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>     double-check with the performance metric directorate.
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