Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-13: (with DISCUSS)
Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> Tue, 11 February 2014 06:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-13: (with DISCUSS)
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Hi Qin, That works for me. As a new PM-DIR member and someone deeply involved in XRBLOCK, do I guess correctly that you have checked for naming collisions, and also some sort of naming consistency in the XRBLOCK metrics? http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-claise-ippm-perf-metric-registry-01#section-4 might help as an inventory as of Oct 2013 Regards, Benoit. > > Hi, Benoit and Al: > > Yes, I confirmed to make change to Appendix A of > draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe. I am not supposed to change > calculation algorithm name in this draft. > > Here is my proposed change to Appendix( See attached) which I have > sent to my authors for confirmation. > > Hope this clarify. > > Regards! > > -Qin > > *From:*Benoit Claise [mailto:bclaise@cisco.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:57 PM > *To:* MORTON, ALFRED C (AL); pm-dir@ietf.org; Qin Wu > *Subject:* Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Benoit Claise's Discuss on > draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-13: (with DISCUSS) > > Hi Al, > > I meant the different "metric name" entries in Appendix A of the draft. > Qin Wu, in cc, agreed to improve those. > We should avoid collisions with the exist XR block defined metrics. > > Regards, Benoit > > Hi Benoit, > > it's not clear what registry you are asking about: > > The IANA section of this draft references and existing registry for > > RTCP-XR metrics (defined in RFC 3611), which has attribute names > > and long-form attribute names for the "MOS Metrics block". > > Also, there's a new registry of calculation algorithms defined in > > the IANA section: > > o Initial assignments are as follows: > > Name Name Description Reference Type > > ========= =================================== ========== ==== > > P564 ITU-T P.564 Compliant Algorithm [P.564] Voice > > G107 ITU-T G.107 [G.107] Voice > > TS101_329 ETSI TS 101 329-5 Annex E [ETSI] Voice > > JJ201_1 TTC JJ201.1 [TTC] Voice > > G107_1 ITU-T G.107.1 [G.107.1] Voice > > P862 ITU-T P.862 [P.862] Voice > > P862_2 ITU-T P.862.2 [P.862.2] Voice > > P863 ITU-T P.863 [P.863] Voice > > P1201_1 ITU-T P.1201.1 [P.1201.1] Multimedia > > P1201_2 ITU-T P.1201.2 [P.1201.2] Multimedia > > P1202_1 ITU-T P.1202.1 [P.1202.1] Video > > P1202_2 ITU-T P.1202.2 [P.1202.2] Video > > Which one of these, or other naming convention are you talking about? > > Al > > *From:*pm-dir [mailto:pm-dir-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of > *Benoit Claise > *Sent:* Thursday, February 06, 2014 9:09 AM > *To:* pm-dir@ietf.org <mailto:pm-dir@ietf.org> > *Subject:* [pm-dir] Fwd: Benoit Claise's Discuss on > draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-13: (with DISCUSS) > > PM-Dir, > > I believe that we need a little bit of consistency regarding the > naming convention for the perf. metrics. > Specifically because those xrblock perf. metrics should be the > basis for an IETF registry. > Feedback? > > Regards, Benoit > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > *Subject: * > > > > Benoit Claise's Discuss on draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-13: > (with DISCUSS) > > *Date: * > > > > Wed, 5 Feb 2014 22:20:33 -0800 > > *From: * > > > > Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> <mailto:bclaise@cisco.com> > > *To: * > > > > The IESG <iesg@ietf.org> <mailto:iesg@ietf.org> > > *CC: * > > > > <xrblock-chairs@tools.ietf.org> > <mailto:xrblock-chairs@tools.ietf.org>, > <draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe@tools.ietf.org> > <mailto:draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe@tools.ietf.org> > > Benoit Claise has entered the following ballot position for > > draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-13: Discuss > > > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > > > > Please refer tohttp://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html > > for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe/ > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > DISCUSS: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > The metric names in the registry are not specific enough: payload type, > > calculation identifier metric, segment type, and potentially MOS. I guess > > they should say something about RTP. Let me file this DISCUSS while I > > double-check with the performance metric directorate. > > > > > > > > > > . > > >
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- Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Benoit Claise's Discuss on draf… Qin Wu
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- Re: [pm-dir] Fwd: Benoit Claise's Discuss on draf… Qin Wu