Re: [ppsp] PPSP Re-charter discussion

Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com> Wed, 22 February 2012 15:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ppsp] PPSP Re-charter discussion
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On 2/22/2012 9:55 AM, Arno Bakker wrote:
> On 22/02/2012 04:15, zhangyunfei wrote:
>> The picture I imagine is that we have a mandatory media transport 
>> mechanim in PPSP. I don't mean to design
>> a new protocol parallel to UDP or TCP. Rather the spec should make it 
>> clear how to use UDP or TCP in PPSP environment. Maybe it also
>> involves some extensions above UDP or TCP.
> 
> Hi
> 
> what is the reason for describing media transport in a separate
> specification and not keeping it in the peer protocol spec where it is
> now (Section 6. Transport Protocols and Encapsulation)?
> 
> I'm afraid the PPSP specification will be fragmented over too many
> documents: 3 specs for the P2P part (peer proto spec, media transport
> spec and usage guide). Not nice for reading, not nice for authoring.


As an individual, I agree with Arno on this.


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Wes Eddy
MTI Systems