Re: [ppsp] Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-11: (with COMMENT)
Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 16 December 2015 13:36 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ppsp] Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-11: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Rachael, On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Huangyihong (Rachel) <rachel.huang@huawei.com> wrote: > Hi Kathleen, > > Thank you for all the valuable comments. Please see my replies inline. > > BR, > Rachel > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ppsp [mailto:ppsp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen Moriarty >> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 10:30 AM >> To: The IESG >> Cc: ppsp-chairs@ietf.org; ppsp@ietf.org; >> draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol@ietf.org >> Subject: [ppsp] Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on >> draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-11: (with COMMENT) >> >> Kathleen Moriarty has entered the following ballot position for >> draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-11: No Objection >> >> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email >> addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory >> paragraph, however.) >> >> >> Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/discuss-criteria.html >> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. >> >> >> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol/ >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> COMMENT: >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> 1. Section 5.2.7 >> Please make mention and reference to security provisions for SNMP and Syslog. >> RFC5424 is just for syslog, so a pointer for SNMP security considerations should >> be added in this section as well. They use a boilerplate for the text and add >> considerations specific to a draft. >> Benoit - do you have a good reference for them to use? A more generic SNMP >> draft might not be up-to-date with the latest boilerplate text. If that's the >> case, the recent changes are small and could be stated with a pointer to an >> RFC with the older boilerplate text. >> >> - Thanks for adding an SNMP reference. I would think there is a better, more >> recent one that could be used. Moving to a comment for your AD to help you >> with and not hold up on this one. > > [Rachel]: Will referring to [RFC5590] be better? > >> >> >> 2. Are there any considerations for the statistics collected, can they be used in >> a malicious way? I would think so and that this would be an important >> security consideration. Mentioning possible issues would be helpful to the >> reader. >> >> - Thanks for adding in text about this one! >> >> 3. Section 6 >> Reference to RFC2616 isn't enough for the security considerations of HTTP >> since that's a really old RFC. If you want authentication options, you could >> point to the HTTPAuth documents, which include updated versions of HTTP >> basic (RFC7616) and digest (RFC7617). While there are still lots of security >> issues with these options, the RFCs spell out what the actual considerations >> are, which are helpful to the reader. This raises the need for TLS 1.2 as well to >> provide session protection for the session (passive and active attacks) as well >> as for the authentication used. >> >> You mention HTTPAuth's digest in 6.1, but there's no reference. This is a little >> better, so I am moving this to a comment from discuss. > > [Rachel]: Yes. I propose following changes for the last paragraph of 6.1: > > OLD > " > OAuth 2.0 Authorization [RFC6749] SHOULD be also considered when > digest authentication and HTTPS client certificates are required. > " > NEW > " > When peer (Client) authentication is desired at the tracker, HTTP Digest Authentication [RFC7616] MUST be supported. > " I think what you had is better as it allowed for certificate based authentication as well. HTTP Digest has it's problems, which are cited in RFC7616. A MUST for that isn't a good idea. Just include the reference for RFC7616 with the older text. Thank you, Kathleen > >> >> 4. Section 6.1 >> Why isn't TLS a must here to protect the session data? >> If you are relying on OAuth Bearer tokens, they offer no security protection >> without TLS, so to rely on this, I'd say TLS really should be a MUST. The >> authentication types to get a bearer token (at least in RFC documentation and >> in the registry) are all pretty weak and require TLS protection to have any level >> of security. >> >> With the TLS MUST, we are recommending TLS 1.2 as the minimum in drafts. >> It would be good to see a mention of TLS 1.2 as a minimum recommendation >> and a reference to the BCP for TLS 1.2 configurations RFC7525 (it even includes >> cipher suite recommendations). >> >> - Thanks for adding in the MUST for TLS and the reference to RFC7525. >> >> 5. Privacy >> I would have expected some discussion on the protection of the 2 ID types and >> the tracker capabilities and that session encryption (TLS) ought to be used >> when this is a consideration. Is there a reason this isn't covered? If it's not >> a concern, I'd like to understand why. >> >> -Thanks for adding in a privacy section! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ppsp mailing list >> ppsp@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp -- Best regards, Kathleen
- [ppsp] Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on draft-… Kathleen Moriarty
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- Re: [ppsp] Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on dr… Kathleen Moriarty