[Pqc] comments on hybrid teminology document
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sat, 18 March 2023 09:40 UTC
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Subject: [Pqc] comments on hybrid teminology document
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I read: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-driscoll-pqt-hybrid-terminology over my coffee. (I want you to imagine it printed on fanfold paper, with coffee cup stains on it) It took me a few takes to understand PQ/T => Post-Quantum/Traditional. Probably because: *Post-Quantum Traditional (PQ/T) Hybrid Scheme*: is split across a page-break.... switching to HTML version. I didn't know the term CRQC, which makes me think of a galactic sized crocodile eating the Internet. section 3 defines things like: *Component Cryptographic Element* but I guess what I don't know is if I'll see "CCE" as the TLA later on. section 4: *Composite PQ/T Hybrid Protocol*: vs: Non-Composite The other way to describe things is that the protocol does a single (hybrid) exchange, or it does multiple non-hybrid exchanges. The success/failure of each exchange in the second case is visible at the protocol level, rather than in the cryptographic "black box" part. I can live with Composite, but I would prefer a different term than non-composite. I think that something that included "Multiple" in the term would make sense. I think that the IKEv2 draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-multiple-ke-12 is an example of the "Non-composite" Maybe this document should update RFC4949 so that we get a forward pointer on it. In general, I think that this document too often has just prepended PQ/T to a "traditional" term. Also, I'd really rather a different term than "traditional". -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [ -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- *I*LIKE*TRAINS*
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- Re: [Pqc] [Ext] comments on hybrid teminology doc… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Pqc] [Ext] comments on hybrid teminology doc… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [Pqc] [Ext] comments on hybrid teminology doc… Rebecca Guthrie
- Re: [Pqc] [Ext] comments on hybrid teminology doc… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [Pqc] [Ext] comments on hybrid teminology doc… Rob Stradling
- Re: [Pqc] [Ext] comments on hybrid teminology doc… Grundner-Culemann, Sophia
- Re: [Pqc] comments on hybrid teminology document Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Pqc] comments on hybrid teminology document Grundner-Culemann, Sophia
- Re: [Pqc] comments on hybrid teminology document Wang Guilin
- Re: [Pqc] [Ext] comments on hybrid teminology doc… Rob Stradling
- Re: [Pqc] comments on hybrid teminology document D. J. Bernstein
- Re: [Pqc] comments on hybrid teminology document Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Pqc] comments on hybrid teminology document Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Pqc] comments on hybrid teminology document Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Pqc] [Ext] comments on hybrid teminology doc… Dan Brown
- Re: [Pqc] comments on hybrid teminology document Falko Strenzke
- Re: [Pqc] [Ext] comments on hybrid teminology doc… Dan Brown
- Re: [Pqc] [Ext] comments on hybrid teminology doc… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [Pqc] [Ext] comments on hybrid teminology doc… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Pqc] [Ext] comments on hybrid teminology doc… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Pqc] [Ext] comments on hybrid teminology doc… Stiepan Kovac
- Re: [Pqc] comments on hybrid teminology document Michael Richardson
- Re: [Pqc] comments on hybrid teminology document Wang Guilin
- Re: [Pqc] comments on hybrid teminology document Wang Guilin
- Re: [Pqc] [Ext] comments on hybrid teminology doc… Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [Pqc] [Ext] comments on hybrid teminology doc… Wang Guilin
- Re: [Pqc] comments on hybrid teminology document Wang Guilin
- Re: [Pqc] comments on hybrid teminology document Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [Pqc] [EXTERNAL] Re: comments on hybrid temin… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [Pqc] comments on hybrid teminology document Stiepan Kovac
- Re: [Pqc] comments on hybrid teminology document D. J. Bernstein
- Re: [Pqc] [Ext] comments on hybrid teminology doc… Tim Hollebeek