[Pqc] Proposed WG to support PQC transition + PQC side meet at IETF 115

Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org> Sat, 29 October 2022 17:37 UTC

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Hi!

The ADs would like feedback on establishing a WG to facilitate the evolution of IETF protocols to support PQC. It would not define or update any protocols. See https://github.com/rdanyliw/ietf-pqc-transition/blob/main/pqct-charter.md.

The scope of this charter text comes from the IETF 114 SecDispatch result for draft-driscoll-pqt-hybrid-terminology where the SEC ADs were tasked to find a home for this work; and the continued energy of the pqc@ietf.org mailing list (e.g., engineering guide to pqc). The charter structure was inspired by the MOPS WG which provides a discussion venue on media operations and allows for publishing informational documents to inform protocol work done elsewhere in the IETF.

In addition to the discussion here on the mailing list, there is side meeting planned for IETF 115 on this charter and discussing additional PQC next steps. Join us on Monday, November 7, 2022, 1800-1900 (London time) in Richmond 6.  See https://github.com/rdanyliw/ietf-pqc-transition/blob/main/ietf115-pqc-next-steps-side-meeting.md for the agenda.

Regards,
Roman