Re: [Pqc] KEM Terminology

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From: "Tschofenig, Hannes" <hannes.tschofenig@siemens.com>
To: "Aritra Banerjee (Nokia)" <aritra.banerjee@nokia.com>, Mike Ounsworth <Mike.Ounsworth=40entrust.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Tim Hollebeek <tim.hollebeek@digicert.com>, "Pqc@ietf.org" <Pqc@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Pqc] KEM Terminology
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Hi Aritra,

I can create a pull request to illustrate where I see the differences.

Ciao
Hannes

Von: Aritra Banerjee (Nokia) <aritra.banerjee@nokia.com>
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Hi Hannes,

The PQUIP draft is already aligned with the draft-ietf-lamps-cms-kemri in terms of the functionalities: KeyGen, Encapsulate and Decapsulate and the terminologies are same as well.

We will add the term CEK (content encryption key) in the section along with DEK as well as cite the references you mentioned.

The KEM section overall went through a lot of iterations with a lot of contributions from authors and the WG contributors. The text we have is very consistent (and aligns) with other WGs as well as general enough for engineers and protocol designers to implement which is after all the goal of this draft rather than re-using KEM definitions from other drafts.

Regards,
Aritra.

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Hi all,



I would look at draft-ietf-lamps-cms-kemri and re-use the KEM text from there. The authors do a good job explaining KEMs and the document is already in IESG processing.



Ciao

Hannes



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Hi Mike,



Not 'c' and 'k'.

'ct' and 'ss' is consistent.



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