[procon] Re: 2418bis comments

[David Schinazi <[e-mail]>]

Hi Pete, and thanks for your comments. Apologies for the *extremely*
delayed response.
Comments inline.
David

On Sun, Mar 15, 2026 at 11:24 PM Pete Resnick <resnick=
[e-mail]> wrote:

> Probably just editorial, but some of them I care about.
>
> Section 1: "ex-officio" does not mean "non-voting". It should probably
> be clear about who does what, with the caveat that saying "non-voting"
> when supposedly none of us vote might make it tricky to say.
>

I agree that we should avoid the common misconception between "ex-officio"
and "non-voting".
That said, the IAB chair and IETF LLC ED are ex-officio IESG members, are
they not?
The fact that they're also non-voting is somewhat of an implementation
detail to the inner
workings of the IESG, and I'm not sure we'd want to be prescriptive about
such things.

Section 7.1: Move the ombudsteam reference in the bit on "Moderate the
> WG email list" to 4.2.2 and perhaps 4.2.1. It doesn't really fit here.
>

Agreed. Moving via
https://github.com/ietf-wg-procon/2418bis/pull/63

Section 8.2:
>
> 2418 says:
>
>     It is stressed here that Internet-Drafts are working documents and
>
>     have no official standards status whatsoever. They may, eventually,
>
>     turn into a standards-track document or they may sink from sight.
>
>     Internet-Drafts are submitted to: [e-mail]
>
>
> I would like that returned to the draft.
>

Can you say why you would like that? Our rationale for removing this
was that it was redundant with RFC 2026 (and the bis).

In the draft, it says:
>
>     Working Groups MAY formally adopt an Internet-Draft to indicate that
>     it is being considered as a candidate for publication as an RFC.
>
> Blech. First, MAY seems silly. More importantly, "is being considered
> for publication as an RFC" is overstated. How about "will be the basis
> for one of the WGs work items."
>

Agreed. Thanks for the suggestion. Added in
https://github.com/ietf-wg-procon/2418bis/pull/61


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