Finally, you can afford software by Adobe MS 2003 & Win XP
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Opt-in Email Special Offer unsubscribe me SEARCH Software TOP 10 NEW TITLES ON SALE NOW! 1 Office Pro 2003 2 Adobe Photoshop 9.0 3 Windows XP Pro 4 Adobe Acrobat 7 Pro 5 Flash MX 2004 6 Corel Draw 12 7 Norton Antivirus 2005 8 Windows 2003 Server 9 Alias Maya 6 Wavefrt 10 Adobe Illustrator 11 See more by this manufacturer Microsoft Symantec Adobe Customers also bought these other items..Microsoft Office Professional Edition *2003* MicrosoftChoose: View Other Titles List Price:$499.00 Price:$69.99 You Save:$429.01 (86%) Availability: Available for INSTANT download! Coupon Code: ygT2I Sales Rank: #1 System requirements | Other Versions Date Coupon Expires: August 31st, 2005 Average Customer Review: Based on 152453 reviews. Write a review. Adobe Photoshop CS2 V 9.0 AdobeChoose: View Other Titles List Price:$599.00 Price:$69.99 You Save:$529.01 (90%) Availability: Available for INSTANT download! 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owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk Hi all, As I think I mentioned before, I've been putting together an I-D that outlines some of the experiences we've had at Afilias in implementing EPP, and that makes some suggestions for what to change in the base protocol or mapping documents to address troubles we've had. The description of our experiences I'm totally comfortable with, but I'm aware that some of the suggested changes are controversial. I'm not even sure they'd all be a good idea (I floated one here that got an overwhelmingly negative reaction, for instance), but I thought I'd make them avavilable ad discussion points. In any case, I've put the draft up at http://www.afilias.info/news/events/draft-sullivan-epp-experience-00.txt in case anyone is interested in it before the submission queue re-opens after Paris. Best regards, Andrew -- ---- Andrew Sullivan 204-4141 Yonge Street Afilias Canada Toronto, Ontario Canada <andrew@ca.afilias.info> M2P 2A8 +1 416 646 3304 x4110 Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6SDNXVP019474 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:23:33 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6SDNXD8020233 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:23:33 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from peregrine.verisign.com (peregrine.verisign.com [216.168.239.74]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6SDNWmX007289 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:23:33 +0200 (MEST) Received: from dul1wnexcn01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (dul1wnexcn01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.170.12.138]) by peregrine.verisign.com (8.13.1/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6SDlXT1003958; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:47:34 -0400 Received: from dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([10.170.12.134]) by dul1wnexcn01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:23:31 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [ietf-provreg] RE: Clarification re. localized data in EPP Contact Mapping (RFC3733) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:24:03 -0400 Message-ID: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07C0A189@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Clarification re. localized data in EPP Contact Mapping (RFC3733) Thread-Index: AcWTVARsK0qyUOJmQ2urNk1fmVK5TwAIxqPw From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> To: "Klaus Malorny" <Klaus.Malorny@knipp.de>, <ietf-provreg@cafax.se> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Jul 2005 13:23:31.0131 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C2148B0:01C59377] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nic.cafax.se id j6SDNXmX001948 Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: Klaus Malorny [mailto:Klaus.Malorny@knipp.de] > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:09 AM > To: ietf-provreg@cafax.se; Hollenbeck, Scott > Subject: Clarification re. localized data in EPP Contact > Mapping (RFC3733) > > > > Hi Scott et al., > > I am a bit in doubt whether I understand the EPP Contact > Mapping document > (RFC3733) correctly regarding the use of localized data for the > name/organization and address, therefore I would appreciate > if you could comment it: This is the relevent text: "One or two <contact:postalInfo> elements that contain postal address information." and "If an internationalized form (type="int") is provided, element content MUST be represented in a subset of UTF-8 that can be represented in the 7-bit US-ASCII character set. If a localized form (type="loc") is provided, element content MAY be represented in unrestricted UTF-8." > - IMHO it is within the registry's policy to accept only > "loc" versions or > only "int" versions. EPP does not mandate that both are accepted. Agreed. "One or two". > - IMHO it is within the registry's policy to accept only a > subset of > the Unicode character set (which is still a superset of > ASCII) for > the "loc" versions. EPP does not mandate that the full > Unicode set > is accepted. Agreed. "MAY be represented in unrestricted UTF-8", not "MUST". -Scott- Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6S991Vq014068 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:09:01 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6S991BL027183 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:09:01 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from clust3b-eth0-0.bbone.knipp.de (clust3b-eth0-0.bbone.knipp.de [195.253.6.85]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6S990im024458 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:09:00 +0200 (MEST) Received: from hp9000.do.knipp.de (hp9000.do.knipp.de [195.253.2.54]) by clust3b-eth0-0.bbone.knipp.de (@(#)Sendmail version 8.13.3 - Revision 1.001 - 2005/02/12/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6S990jF021723; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:09:00 +0200 (METDST) Received: from [195.253.2.27] (mclane.do.knipp.de [195.253.2.27]) by hp9000.do.knipp.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id j6S98vK09096; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:08:57 +0200 (METDST) Message-ID: <42E8A0A6.3030407@knipp.de> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:08:54 +0200 From: Klaus Malorny <Klaus.Malorny@knipp.de> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8a6) Gecko/20041220 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-provreg@cafax.se, shollenbeck@verisign.com Subject: [ietf-provreg] Clarification re. localized data in EPP Contact Mapping (RFC3733) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Knipp-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Knipp-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0, required 3) X-Knipp-MailScanner-From: klaus.malorny@knipp.de Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk Hi Scott et al., I am a bit in doubt whether I understand the EPP Contact Mapping document (RFC3733) correctly regarding the use of localized data for the name/organization and address, therefore I would appreciate if you could comment it: - IMHO it is within the registry's policy to accept only "loc" versions or only "int" versions. EPP does not mandate that both are accepted. - IMHO it is within the registry's policy to accept only a subset of the Unicode character set (which is still a superset of ASCII) for the "loc" versions. EPP does not mandate that the full Unicode set is accepted. Thanks in advance. regards, Klaus ___________________________________________________________________________ | | | knipp | Knipp Medien und Kommunikation GmbH ------- Technologiepark Martin-SchmeiÃer-Weg 9 Dipl. Inf. 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Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:44:00 -0400 Message-ID: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EF93@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Thread-Index: AcWO0fRrIugXHT2hQTm1OVa+H9ftewAAQb7w From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> To: "Andrew Sullivan" <andrew@ca.afilias.info>, <ietf-provreg@cafax.se> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2005 15:43:35.0136 (UTC) FILETIME=[1ED42E00:01C58ED4] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nic.cafax.se id j6MFhcES006779 Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se > [mailto:owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se] On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 11:11 AM > To: ietf-provreg@cafax.se > Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 09:57:32AM -0400, Edward Lewis wrote: > > Does this need to be done in the protocol? (One of my litmus test > > questions.) > > I think it has to be _possible_ in the protocol, anyway; and today, I > think, it isn't. (I may be wrong, of course. I'm always happy to be > corrected.) The problem I see with trying to match status values to object attributes is that the attributes aren't static. More can be added by extension, and then what? Do we need to go back and update the domain mapping to deal with new extension attributes? It makes much more sense to deal with special cases using extensions. Which leads me to this: there *is* a way to deal with this in the protocol right now: - Do not use serverUpdateProhibited at all if you wish to allow some updates, but not others. - Define an extension to add new status values that match local registry update policy. -Scott- Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6MFdpCE010940 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:39:52 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6MFdpkT005468 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:39:51 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from mail.libertyrms.com (vgateway.libertyrms.info [207.219.45.62] (may be forged)) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6MFdonl007700 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:39:51 +0200 (MEST) Received: from dev3.int.libertyrms.com ([10.1.3.40] helo=ca.afilias.info) by mail.libertyrms.com with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1Dvzcr-00086T-Ng; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:39:49 -0400 Message-ID: <42E1139A.30805@ca.afilias.info> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:41:14 -0400 From: janusz <janusz@ca.afilias.info> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info> CC: ietf-provreg@cafax.se Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates References: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EEF3@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <20050722132532.GA26140@libertyrms.info> In-Reply-To: <20050722132532.GA26140@libertyrms.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: janusz@ca.afilias.info X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk Andrew Sullivan wrote: >I wonder if the answer is to make some of the update prohibitions >more granular? I know it's sort of ugly, but it's consistent with >the use-cases we've actually seen. > > > > Introduction of more granular update prohibited status values without breaking <update> command into a set of corresponding lower granulity <update> commands would break existing protocol structure. Currently there is a direct link between each prohibited status and EPP command. The main purpose of each prohibited status is to indicate that the corresponding EPP command should fail on any object that has the status value set. The direct link between prohibited statuses and EPP commands has positive implication on client and server implementations of the protocol. After breaking updateProhibited status into lower granulity statues without breaking <update> command the link will be broken. The use of the protocol for automated processing will be more difficult. It will be less obvious to the client and server to determine whether a particular command can be provisioned or not. The syntax of XML requests will have to be compared against the state of domain objects to make such decisions. I can see some value of breaking updatedProhibited status into a set of more specific prohibited status values provided that <update> command is also broken into a set of corresponding more specific commands however I am aware that would be a drastic and controversial protocol change. Janusz Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6MFDQHs016853 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:13:26 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6MFDQ9s023823 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:13:26 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from mail.libertyrms.com (vgateway.libertyrms.info [207.219.45.62] (may be forged)) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6MFDPWe023933 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:13:26 +0200 (MEST) Received: from dev3.int.libertyrms.com ([10.1.3.40] helo=ca.afilias.info) by mail.libertyrms.com with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1DvzDJ-0007KW-3K; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:13:25 -0400 Message-ID: <42E10D69.1010801@ca.afilias.info> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:14:49 -0400 From: janusz <janusz@ca.afilias.info> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> CC: ietf-provreg@cafax.se Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates References: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EEF3@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EEF3@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: janusz@ca.afilias.info X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: >>Lets consider a scenario when a deletion policy prohibits any >>updates of >>domain objects between enetering pendingDelete state and rgp restore >>request. If serverUpdateProhibited status is used then rgp restore >>request should not be accepted because it is an extension of <update> >>command. From the other hand I don not see any mechanism within EPP >>protocol to protect the domain object from client updates and at the >>same time allowing <update> requests with rgp restore extension. >> >>The "conflict" I described is not as severe as the original >>one but it >>can be treated as an inconsistency between 3731 and 3915 >>documents. The >>inconsistency could be removed if rgp restore was defined as >>a new EPP >>command versus an extension to <update> command. >> >> > >Yes, a new EPP command could prevent this scenario. Unfortunately, it's >inconsistent with the guidance presented in RFC 3735. If we're going to >modify both 3731 and 3915 (and I'm suggesting that we should) we have an >opportunity to write text to ensure that the protocol and the >ICANN-defined policy are consistent. > >-Scott- > > Perhaps it would be worthwhile to take a look at 3735 to include a provision to handle this type of scenarios. The sample scenario with deletion policy could point to a larger class of cases. A registry implementer may try to extend EPP protocol to support a new policy. The EPP extension guidelines defined in RFC 3735 may indicate that an extension to existing EPP command should be chosen. >From the other hand the policy may require accepting the extension when a relevant prohibited status is set. It may not be obvious to all EPP implementers how the protocol should be extended in cases of conflict between 3735 and policy requirements. Janusz Sienkiewicz Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6MFBddI016191 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:11:39 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6MFBdpq021797 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:11:39 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from mail.libertyrms.com (vgateway.libertyrms.info [207.219.45.62] (may be forged)) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6MFBbV9004461 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:11:38 +0200 (MEST) Received: from dba3.int.libertyrms.com ([10.1.3.12] helo=dba3.int.libertyrms.info ident=postfix) by mail.libertyrms.com with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1DvzBY-0007Hn-HX for ietf-provreg@cafax.se; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:11:36 -0400 Received: by dba3.int.libertyrms.info (Postfix, from userid 1019) id C5B5713744; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:11:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:11:29 -0400 From: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info> To: ietf-provreg@cafax.se Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Message-ID: <20050722151129.GH26140@libertyrms.info> Reply-To: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info> Mail-Followup-To: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info>, ietf-provreg@cafax.se References: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EEF3@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <20050722132532.GA26140@libertyrms.info> <a06200701bf06a9517f16@[10.31.32.164]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <a06200701bf06a9517f16@[10.31.32.164]> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: andrew@libertyrms.info X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 09:57:32AM -0400, Edward Lewis wrote: > Does this need to be done in the protocol? (One of my litmus test > questions.) I think it has to be _possible_ in the protocol, anyway; and today, I think, it isn't. (I may be wrong, of course. I'm always happy to be corrected.) > I.e., assuming the domain's contact info is locked but the name > servers are not. If a request comes in to change the contact info, > the response could be that the domain is locked. Changing name > servers is okay. Trying to do both gets a locked notification even > though the request is half good. I think my example didn't come across well. When we want to prevent (say) registrant data from changing, we must do two things: 1. Set the serverUpdateProhibited status on the contact object, so that the contacts name, org, address, &c. can't change. 2. Set the serverUpdateProhibited status on the domain object, so that it's not possible to change the registrant's contact id to something else. (2) is what's troublesome in this case: the domain is now in a state where not only the registrant can't be changed; the sponsoring client can't update the nameservers, either. This sort of thing happens during "landrush" periods all the time, for example. There is a potential for a lot of thrashing during that period. I'm perfectly aware that people can be doing naughty things behind the veil of unchanging contact data; but I can't do anything about that. What I can do, in order to solve trademark disputes and reduce the UDRP invocation, is to make sure that whatever the contact data is, it isn't changing around daily, making the challenges invalid. But while we're waiting for the lawyers to settle things amongst themselves, there's no reason that the domain should't resolve, or that the authInfo shouldn't be updated, &c. "Landrush" cases aren't the only ones that are relevant. CcTLDs often have a lot of complicated rules about geographic location that control what eligible registrants are for a given region. The sTLDs under ICANN rules also have complicated eligibility requirements. So I think there is a set of business rules here that is currently at least very hard, if not impossible, to implement under the current documents. A ---- Andrew Sullivan 204-4141 Yonge Street Afilias Canada Toronto, Ontario Canada <andrew@ca.afilias.info> M2P 2A8 +1 416 646 3304 x4110 Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6MDvSRR013368 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:57:28 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6MDvSYx000110 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:57:28 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from ogud.com (ns.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6MDvQf9011230 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:57:26 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [10.31.32.164] (ns.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6MDvJme050344; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:57:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <a06200701bf06a9517f16@[10.31.32.164]> In-Reply-To: <20050722132532.GA26140@libertyrms.info> References: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EEF3@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <20050722132532.GA26140@libertyrms.info> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:57:32 -0400 To: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info> From: Edward Lewis <Ed.Lewis@Neustar.biz> Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Cc: ietf-provreg@cafax.se Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk At 9:25 -0400 7/22/05, Andrew Sullivan wrote: >In contrast to that, <domain:update> can change all manner of >attributes on a domain. Moreover, there are certainly cases where we >want one update to be possible, but not others. Afilias has had >cases where we wanted (for example) to prevent contact data >associated with a domain from changing; but that didn't mean we >wanted nameserver information not to change, or that we thought it'd >be a bad thing for people to be able to update their authInfo to >something slightly more tough to guess than "1234". > >I wonder if the answer is to make some of the update prohibitions >more granular? I know it's sort of ugly, but it's consistent with >the use-cases we've actually seen. Does this need to be done in the protocol? (One of my litmus test questions.) I.e., assuming the domain's contact info is locked but the name servers are not. If a request comes in to change the contact info, the response could be that the domain is locked. Changing name servers is okay. Trying to do both gets a locked notification even though the request is half good. The last situation would be somewhat confusing to the client-side. Do you think it is better to make the update prohibitions more granular, add an explanation (defined by business rules), or let this confusion fall to customer support? EPP is intertwined with "business rules." There's a fat grey line between what EPP has to do because of business rules and what EPP ought to be agnostic about in the business rules. That's why I'm asking. The subtext is that (IMHO) when we developed EPP the community involved had similar business rules, and the rules then were still in formation. Although EPP meets its need well, perhaps there are rough edges we missed. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar If you knew what I was thinking, you'd understand what I was saying. Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6MDPgE5025117 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:25:42 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6MDPffV023989 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:25:41 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from mail.libertyrms.com (vgateway.libertyrms.info [207.219.45.62] (may be forged)) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6MDPenh005652 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:25:40 +0200 (MEST) Received: from dba3.int.libertyrms.com ([10.1.3.12] helo=dba3.int.libertyrms.info ident=postfix) by mail.libertyrms.com with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1DvxX1-0004HS-BI for ietf-provreg@cafax.se; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:25:39 -0400 Received: by dba3.int.libertyrms.info (Postfix, from userid 1019) id A759F13744; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:25:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:25:32 -0400 From: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info> To: ietf-provreg@cafax.se Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Message-ID: <20050722132532.GA26140@libertyrms.info> Reply-To: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info> Mail-Followup-To: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info>, ietf-provreg@cafax.se References: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EEF3@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EEF3@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: andrew@libertyrms.info X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 07:20:26AM -0400, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: janusz [mailto:janusz@ca.afilias.info] > > > > > Will removing transform restrictions on pendingDelete remove all > > conflicts between 3731 and 3915? > > It will if the registry doesn't do something stupid to introduce a > potential conflict. > > > Lets consider a scenario when a deletion policy prohibits any > > updates of > > domain objects between enetering pendingDelete state and rgp restore > > request. If serverUpdateProhibited status is used then rgp restore > > request should not be accepted because it is an extension of <update> > > command. From the other hand I don not see any mechanism within EPP > > protocol to protect the domain object from client updates and at the > > same time allowing <update> requests with rgp restore extension. It seems to me, though, that Janusz is pointing to another difficulty that I've also noticed: the *UpdateProhibited status values are too coarse. I understand the value of consistency: we have one type of prohibition against (for instance) <domain:delete>; so we should similarly have one type of prohibition against other commands, like <domain:update>. The trouble I have with this is that <domain:delete> really has only one function: either it causes a delete to be initiated (and maybe completed) against a domain, or it does not. It therefore makes sense that a client or repository should either prohibit deletes, or not. In contrast to that, <domain:update> can change all manner of attributes on a domain. Moreover, there are certainly cases where we want one update to be possible, but not others. Afilias has had cases where we wanted (for example) to prevent contact data associated with a domain from changing; but that didn't mean we wanted nameserver information not to change, or that we thought it'd be a bad thing for people to be able to update their authInfo to something slightly more tough to guess than "1234". I wonder if the answer is to make some of the update prohibitions more granular? I know it's sort of ugly, but it's consistent with the use-cases we've actually seen. 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Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6MBK4ns029613 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:20:04 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6MBK4W2012479 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:20:04 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from eagle.verisign.com (eagle.verisign.com [216.168.239.70]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6MBK2wV019028 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:20:02 +0200 (MEST) Received: from dul1wnexcn03.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (dul1wnexcn03.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.170.12.113]) by eagle.verisign.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6MB8oad008818; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([10.170.12.134]) by dul1wnexcn03.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:20:00 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:20:26 -0400 Message-ID: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EEF3@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Thread-Index: AcWOL/6t28wzEEcVQyOl0aICmKokrQAffuMQ From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> To: "janusz" <janusz@ca.afilias.info> Cc: "Andrew Sullivan" <andrew@ca.afilias.info>, <ietf-provreg@cafax.se> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2005 11:20:00.0452 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C8AE840:01C58EAF] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nic.cafax.se id j6MBK3wV015098 Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: janusz [mailto:janusz@ca.afilias.info] > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:10 PM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: Andrew Sullivan; ietf-provreg@cafax.se > Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates > > Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > > >I agree that the transform restriction seems to be kludgy in and of > >itself. The protocol already includes features to prevent > transforms, > >if desired by the registry, by adding status values as > Andrew suggests > >above. > > > >In short, I believe that the right thing is to remove the > "pendingDelete > >prevents transforms" restriction from 3731. > > > > > > > > > Will removing transform restrictions on pendingDelete remove all > conflicts between 3731 and 3915? It will if the registry doesn't do something stupid to introduce a potential conflict. > Lets consider a scenario when a deletion policy prohibits any > updates of > domain objects between enetering pendingDelete state and rgp restore > request. If serverUpdateProhibited status is used then rgp restore > request should not be accepted because it is an extension of <update> > command. From the other hand I don not see any mechanism within EPP > protocol to protect the domain object from client updates and at the > same time allowing <update> requests with rgp restore extension. > > The "conflict" I described is not as severe as the original > one but it > can be treated as an inconsistency between 3731 and 3915 > documents. The > inconsistency could be removed if rgp restore was defined as > a new EPP > command versus an extension to <update> command. Yes, a new EPP command could prevent this scenario. Unfortunately, it's inconsistent with the guidance presented in RFC 3735. If we're going to modify both 3731 and 3915 (and I'm suggesting that we should) we have an opportunity to write text to ensure that the protocol and the ICANN-defined policy are consistent. -Scott- Return-Path: <megalottery2005@netscape.net> Received: from 65.201.54.51 (c-24-128-122-110.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [24.128.122.110]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id j6M9SrgU001194 for <ietf-provreg-logger@cafax.se>; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:28:54 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200507220928.j6M9SrgU001194@nic.cafax.se> From: "Mrs. Brigit Willem" <megalottery2005@netscape.net> To: ietf-provreg-logger@cafax.se Subject: YOUR E-MAIL NAME WON THE LOTTERY !!! Sender: "Mrs. Brigit Willem" <megalottery2005@netscape.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:28:53 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 FROM: THE DESK OF THE LOTTO CHANCELLOR, INTERNATIONAL PROMOTIONS/PRIZE AWARD DEPARTMENT, REF: KIY/47560460037/02. 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Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6LK8gAp023536 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:08:42 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6LK8go0014574 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:08:42 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from mail.libertyrms.com (vgateway.libertyrms.info [207.219.45.62] (may be forged)) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6LK8fqV028671 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:08:41 +0200 (MEST) Received: from dev3.int.libertyrms.com ([10.1.3.40] helo=ca.afilias.info) by mail.libertyrms.com with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1DvhLT-0000y2-Mu; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:08:39 -0400 Message-ID: <42E00119.30604@ca.afilias.info> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:10:01 -0400 From: janusz <janusz@ca.afilias.info> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> CC: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info>, ietf-provreg@cafax.se Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates References: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EBC7@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EBC7@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: janusz@ca.afilias.info X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: >I agree that the transform restriction seems to be kludgy in and of >itself. The protocol already includes features to prevent transforms, >if desired by the registry, by adding status values as Andrew suggests >above. > >In short, I believe that the right thing is to remove the "pendingDelete >prevents transforms" restriction from 3731. > > > > Will removing transform restrictions on pendingDelete remove all conflicts between 3731 and 3915? Lets consider a scenario when a deletion policy prohibits any updates of domain objects between enetering pendingDelete state and rgp restore request. If serverUpdateProhibited status is used then rgp restore request should not be accepted because it is an extension of <update> command. From the other hand I don not see any mechanism within EPP protocol to protect the domain object from client updates and at the same time allowing <update> requests with rgp restore extension. The "conflict" I described is not as severe as the original one but it can be treated as an inconsistency between 3731 and 3915 documents. 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Is the prohibition (or any prohibition) > are "business rule" that can be forced up the stack? Is there a > reason the protocol needs to define this - is it an interoperability > issue? Well, some people have argued as much to me. I sort of don't see it, though: if there's no implicit restriction from pending*, then the other server*Prohibited status values are the ones to use, and it's totally obvious from looking at the status values what you may and may not do. Of course, this complicates status handling. Maybe that's the reason people wanted the implicit effects -- they think it is easier to code. > Can a registrar deal with one registry that prohibits one action > during a pendingDelete and still deal with another registry that > permits the same action? I think that's one question which will say > whether we need to retain the prohibition. I've been assuming that you don't get to prohibit stuff implicitly under the changed rules: if you want a prohibition, use the right prohibited status. Again, as I've said, I'm not perfectly sure about this yet, although I haven't come up with a good argument against it. A -- ---- Andrew Sullivan 204-4141 Yonge Street Afilias Canada Toronto, Ontario Canada <andrew@ca.afilias.info> M2P 2A8 +1 416 646 3304 x4110 Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JMSWoZ001262 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:28:32 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6JMSW1h022682 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:28:32 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from mail.libertyrms.com (vgateway.libertyrms.info [207.219.45.62] (may be forged)) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JMSU38009544 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:28:31 +0200 (MEST) Received: from roaming9.int.libertyrms.com ([10.1.3.239] helo=DUN911) by mail.libertyrms.com with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1Dv0Zh-0000bv-FF; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:28:29 -0400 From: "Michael Young" <myoung@ca.afilias.info> To: "'James Gould'" <jgould@verisign.com>, "'Hollenbeck, Scott'" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>, "'Andrew Sullivan'" <andrew@ca.afilias.info>, <ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Subject: RE: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:28:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <BF02F15E.A4C0%jgould@verisign.com> Thread-Index: AcWMrkY0cQh0LF5USLCwU6PgM+EX0QAAXP2A Message-Id: <E1Dv0Zh-0000bv-FF@mail.libertyrms.com> X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: myoung@ca.afilias.info X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk Andrew's question of the need for the transform restriction and Scott's comments as to why it was introduced leave me in support of removing it from the base specification. A lot has changed (namely RGP) since the restriction was originally introduced, so it seems like its not fulfilling its original intent. Michael Young -----Original Message----- From: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se [mailto:owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se] On Behalf Of James Gould Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:05 PM To: Hollenbeck, Scott; Andrew Sullivan; ietf-provreg@cafax.se Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates I agree with Scott, that the right thing to do is to remove the "pendingDelete prevents transforms" restriction from 3731 since there is a use case with RFC 3915 that a transform operation can occur when the domain has the pendingDelete status. In the case of RFC 3915 the pendingDelete status is broken into more fine grained statuses where the combination of pendingDelete and rgp:pendingDelete will prohibit future transform operations. The base specification should either be less specific to allow extensions or registry policy to define behavior, or the extension should be able to explicitly override a restriction defined in the base specification. So removing the restriction from RFC 3731 would allow RFC 3915 to extend the meaning of the pendingDelete status, while leaving the restriction requires the extension to redefine the restriction. A registry implementing the extension will follow the policy of both the base specification and the extension. I don't believe that it is confusing to registrars that a transform operation is allowed while a domain has the pendingDelete status knowing that the registry implements RFC 3915. -- JG James F. Gould VeriSign Naming and Directory Services jgould@verisign.com This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized use, distribution, or disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify sender immediately and destroy/delete the original transmission > From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:30:47 -0400 > To: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info>, <ietf-provreg@cafax.se> > Subject: RE: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se >> [mailto:owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se] On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan >> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:29 PM >> To: ietf-provreg@cafax.se >> Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates >> >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 02:47:50PM -0400, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: >>> Thanks for the thoughts, Ed. >>> >>>> I talked this over with the developers in-house - I'd (we'd) >>>> recommend altering the pendingDelete rule (first option). >>> >>> That's what I originally intended with 3915, but it may mean a text >>> change to 3731 to ensure that the intention is clear. Not >> necessarily a >>> big deal. >> >> Something that isn't clear to me -- and I know that Janusz disagrees >> with me about this, and I'm not even sure what I think about it >> myself -- but why does the pendingDelete status prevent other changes >> on a domain? If you want to prevent updates, why not add >> serverUpdateProhibited too? (The same goes for other pending status >> values, and other objects.) > > More memory taxation... > > The pendingDelete status (originally PENDING-DELETE) has been in the > specs since the very first individual submission. The restriction > went in between -04 and -05 of the working group versions. I just > spent a few minutes looking through the archives from 2002 to see what > (if > anything) was discussed, but a quick glance didn't turn up anything. > > I *think* the idea was that someone (maybe me after talking to > registrars) wanted pendingDelete to be a final, irrevocable "warning" > period before a domain would become available for re-registration. > Once the removal process started, it should be hard or impossible to > prevent it from completing. > > I agree that the transform restriction seems to be kludgy in and of > itself. The protocol already includes features to prevent transforms, > if desired by the registry, by adding status values as Andrew suggests > above. > > In short, I believe that the right thing is to remove the > "pendingDelete prevents transforms" restriction from 3731. > > -Scott- > > Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JM5Nvc024981 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:05:23 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6JM5Nvi024861 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:05:23 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from falcon.verisign.com (falcon.verisign.com [216.168.239.71]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JM5M3r009238 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:05:22 +0200 (MEST) Received: from dul1wnexcn01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (dul1wnexcn01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.170.12.138]) by falcon.verisign.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6JLvIoi011387; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:57:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([10.170.12.134]) by dul1wnexcn01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:05:20 -0400 Received: from 10.131.29.3 ([10.131.29.3]) by dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([10.170.12.134]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:05:20 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:05:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates From: James Gould <jgould@verisign.com> To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>, Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info>, <ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Message-ID: <BF02F15E.A4C0%jgould@verisign.com> In-Reply-To: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EBC7@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2005 22:05:20.0517 (UTC) FILETIME=[F442B350:01C58CAD] Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk I agree with Scott, that the right thing to do is to remove the "pendingDelete prevents transforms" restriction from 3731 since there is a use case with RFC 3915 that a transform operation can occur when the domain has the pendingDelete status. In the case of RFC 3915 the pendingDelete status is broken into more fine grained statuses where the combination of pendingDelete and rgp:pendingDelete will prohibit future transform operations. The base specification should either be less specific to allow extensions or registry policy to define behavior, or the extension should be able to explicitly override a restriction defined in the base specification. So removing the restriction from RFC 3731 would allow RFC 3915 to extend the meaning of the pendingDelete status, while leaving the restriction requires the extension to redefine the restriction. A registry implementing the extension will follow the policy of both the base specification and the extension. I don't believe that it is confusing to registrars that a transform operation is allowed while a domain has the pendingDelete status knowing that the registry implements RFC 3915. -- JG James F. Gould VeriSign Naming and Directory Services jgould@verisign.com This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized use, distribution, or disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify sender immediately and destroy/delete the original transmission > From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:30:47 -0400 > To: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info>, <ietf-provreg@cafax.se> > Subject: RE: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se >> [mailto:owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se] On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan >> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:29 PM >> To: ietf-provreg@cafax.se >> Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates >> >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 02:47:50PM -0400, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: >>> Thanks for the thoughts, Ed. >>> >>>> I talked this over with the developers in-house - I'd (we'd) >>>> recommend altering the pendingDelete rule (first option). >>> >>> That's what I originally intended with 3915, but it may mean a text >>> change to 3731 to ensure that the intention is clear. Not >> necessarily a >>> big deal. >> >> Something that isn't clear to me -- and I know that Janusz disagrees >> with me about this, and I'm not even sure what I think about it >> myself -- but why does the pendingDelete status prevent other changes >> on a domain? If you want to prevent updates, why not add >> serverUpdateProhibited too? (The same goes for other pending status >> values, and other objects.) > > More memory taxation... > > The pendingDelete status (originally PENDING-DELETE) has been in the > specs since the very first individual submission. The restriction went > in between -04 and -05 of the working group versions. I just spent a > few minutes looking through the archives from 2002 to see what (if > anything) was discussed, but a quick glance didn't turn up anything. > > I *think* the idea was that someone (maybe me after talking to > registrars) wanted pendingDelete to be a final, irrevocable "warning" > period before a domain would become available for re-registration. Once > the removal process started, it should be hard or impossible to prevent > it from completing. > > I agree that the transform restriction seems to be kludgy in and of > itself. The protocol already includes features to prevent transforms, > if desired by the registry, by adding status values as Andrew suggests > above. > > In short, I believe that the right thing is to remove the "pendingDelete > prevents transforms" restriction from 3731. > > -Scott- > > Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JLURUC021905 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:30:27 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6JLURBY019905 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:30:27 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from eagle.verisign.com (eagle.verisign.com [216.168.239.70]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JLUQsb027442 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:30:27 +0200 (MEST) Received: from dul1wnexcn01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (dul1wnexcn01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.170.12.138]) by eagle.verisign.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6JLJIad018436; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:19:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([10.170.12.134]) by dul1wnexcn01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:30:25 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:30:47 -0400 Message-ID: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EBC7@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Thread-Index: AcWMoqJ/yhoe+ma/TdWYH3IFn+snnAAA3FkQ From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> To: "Andrew Sullivan" <andrew@ca.afilias.info>, <ietf-provreg@cafax.se> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2005 21:30:25.0153 (UTC) FILETIME=[13538710:01C58CA9] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nic.cafax.se id j6JLURsb008589 Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se > [mailto:owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se] On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:29 PM > To: ietf-provreg@cafax.se > Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 02:47:50PM -0400, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > > Thanks for the thoughts, Ed. > > > > > I talked this over with the developers in-house - I'd (we'd) > > > recommend altering the pendingDelete rule (first option). > > > > That's what I originally intended with 3915, but it may mean a text > > change to 3731 to ensure that the intention is clear. Not > necessarily a > > big deal. > > Something that isn't clear to me -- and I know that Janusz disagrees > with me about this, and I'm not even sure what I think about it > myself -- but why does the pendingDelete status prevent other changes > on a domain? If you want to prevent updates, why not add > serverUpdateProhibited too? (The same goes for other pending status > values, and other objects.) More memory taxation... The pendingDelete status (originally PENDING-DELETE) has been in the specs since the very first individual submission. The restriction went in between -04 and -05 of the working group versions. I just spent a few minutes looking through the archives from 2002 to see what (if anything) was discussed, but a quick glance didn't turn up anything. I *think* the idea was that someone (maybe me after talking to registrars) wanted pendingDelete to be a final, irrevocable "warning" period before a domain would become available for re-registration. Once the removal process started, it should be hard or impossible to prevent it from completing. I agree that the transform restriction seems to be kludgy in and of itself. The protocol already includes features to prevent transforms, if desired by the registry, by adding status values as Andrew suggests above. In short, I believe that the right thing is to remove the "pendingDelete prevents transforms" restriction from 3731. -Scott- Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JLIdmE028915 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:18:39 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6JLIdHM004383 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:18:39 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from ogud.com (ns.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JLIbWa021146 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:18:38 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [10.31.32.204] (ns.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JLITAZ026363; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:18:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <a0620070abf031df34a16@[10.31.32.204]> In-Reply-To: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EBBE@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EBBE@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:18:45 -0400 To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> From: Edward Lewis <Ed.Lewis@Neustar.biz> Subject: RE: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Cc: "Edward Lewis" <Ed.Lewis@Neustar.biz>, "Andrew Sullivan" <andrew@ca.afilias.info>, <ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk At 17:08 -0400 7/19/05, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > >I think that's perfectly appropriate. If implementation experience has >demonstrated that it was a mistake, we can change it. The question, >though, is what to replace it with? No restrictions? Some >restrictions? Trying to define a set might be a problem. Not defining >any in the protocol might be better, since that gives registries the >flexibility to do whatever is appropriate in their own operating >environments. > That's what I was thinking. Is the prohibition (or any prohibition) are "business rule" that can be forced up the stack? Is there a reason the protocol needs to define this - is it an interoperability issue? Can a registrar deal with one registry that prohibits one action during a pendingDelete and still deal with another registry that permits the same action? I think that's one question which will say whether we need to retain the prohibition. Another aspect is the impact on the document, the code complying to it, and whether the schema is changed. I don't have answers myself right now, but these are the things that need looking into. In my opinion. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar If you knew what I was thinking, you'd understand what I was saying. Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JL89js015275 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:08:09 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6JL89KJ011288 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:08:09 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from falcon.verisign.com (falcon.verisign.com [216.168.239.71]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JL88fj026251 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:08:09 +0200 (MEST) Received: from dul1wnexcn01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (dul1wnexcn01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.170.12.138]) by falcon.verisign.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6JL00oi008677; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:00:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([10.170.12.134]) by dul1wnexcn01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:08:02 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:08:25 -0400 Message-ID: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EBBE@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Thread-Index: AcWMpLne+R1x0zFDTsSbWmcu+nqWLQAALTSQ From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> To: "Edward Lewis" <Ed.Lewis@Neustar.biz>, "Andrew Sullivan" <andrew@ca.afilias.info> Cc: <ietf-provreg@cafax.se> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2005 21:08:02.0608 (UTC) FILETIME=[F31B6B00:01C58CA5] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nic.cafax.se id j6JL89fj016597 Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se > [mailto:owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se] On Behalf Of Edward Lewis > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:45 PM > To: Andrew Sullivan > Cc: ietf-provreg@cafax.se > Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates > > At 16:28 -0400 7/19/05, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > > >I can say for sure that we have found some pending states convenient > >for some cases. It's particularly useful in ccTLDs, where there can > >be an elaborate process review prior to a domain really being > >created or updated or whatever. You don't want to hold up the > >protocol while you determine whether (for instance) a registrant has > >the rights to a domain in that geographic region. (One can think > >what one wants about the utility of such policies; but it does seem > >to be the policy in some places.) > > Pending states are definitely useful. I don't think anyone wants to > remove them from the protocol. > > You are right (in text I removed) that preventing other actions while > in pendingDelete is questionable. That's what we ought to seek to > change. I think that's perfectly appropriate. If implementation experience has demonstrated that it was a mistake, we can change it. The question, though, is what to replace it with? No restrictions? Some restrictions? Trying to define a set might be a problem. Not defining any in the protocol might be better, since that gives registries the flexibility to do whatever is appropriate in their own operating environments. -Scott- Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JKjNmx018169 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:45:23 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6JKjN3w019660 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:45:23 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from ogud.com (ns.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JKjMfX015610 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:45:22 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [10.31.32.204] (ns.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JKjEvX026016; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:45:15 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <a06200708bf0315a457ae@[10.31.32.204]> In-Reply-To: <20050719202848.GL29312@libertyrms.info> References: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EB64@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> <20050719202848.GL29312@libertyrms.info> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:45:25 -0400 To: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info> From: Edward Lewis <Ed.Lewis@Neustar.biz> Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Cc: ietf-provreg@cafax.se Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk At 16:28 -0400 7/19/05, Andrew Sullivan wrote: >I can say for sure that we have found some pending states convenient >for some cases. It's particularly useful in ccTLDs, where there can >be an elaborate process review prior to a domain really being >created or updated or whatever. You don't want to hold up the >protocol while you determine whether (for instance) a registrant has >the rights to a domain in that geographic region. (One can think >what one wants about the utility of such policies; but it does seem >to be the policy in some places.) Pending states are definitely useful. I don't think anyone wants to remove them from the protocol. You are right (in text I removed) that preventing other actions while in pendingDelete is questionable. That's what we ought to seek to change. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar If you knew what I was thinking, you'd understand what I was saying. Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JKSxtf000706 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:28:59 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6JKSxoK019796 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:28:59 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from mail.libertyrms.com (vgateway.libertyrms.info [207.219.45.62] (may be forged)) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JKSwDC028526 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:28:58 +0200 (MEST) Received: from dba3.int.libertyrms.com ([10.1.3.12] helo=dba3.int.libertyrms.info ident=postfix) by mail.libertyrms.com with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1Duyhz-0007cP-6n for ietf-provreg@cafax.se; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:28:55 -0400 Received: by dba3.int.libertyrms.info (Postfix, from userid 1019) id 4FFB013748; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:28:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:28:49 -0400 From: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info> To: ietf-provreg@cafax.se Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Message-ID: <20050719202848.GL29312@libertyrms.info> Reply-To: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info> Mail-Followup-To: Andrew Sullivan <andrew@ca.afilias.info>, ietf-provreg@cafax.se References: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EB64@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EB64@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: andrew@libertyrms.info X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 02:47:50PM -0400, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > Thanks for the thoughts, Ed. > > > I talked this over with the developers in-house - I'd (we'd) > > recommend altering the pendingDelete rule (first option). > > That's what I originally intended with 3915, but it may mean a text > change to 3731 to ensure that the intention is clear. Not necessarily a > big deal. Something that isn't clear to me -- and I know that Janusz disagrees with me about this, and I'm not even sure what I think about it myself -- but why does the pendingDelete status prevent other changes on a domain? If you want to prevent updates, why not add serverUpdateProhibited too? (The same goes for other pending status values, and other objects.) > If I remember correctly (and it's possible I won't), all of the > "pending" stuff was added as a result of people wanting to allow some > sort of offline review/processing before some "final" state was entered. Well, it's worth noting that the earliest I-D I have a copy of (draft-ietf-provreg-epp-domain-00.txt) defines pendingDelete, pendingTransfer, and pendingVerification, which seems to lend credence to that memory. I can say for sure that we have found some pending states convenient for some cases. It's particularly useful in ccTLDs, where there can be an elaborate process review prior to a domain really being created or updated or whatever. You don't want to hold up the protocol while you determine whether (for instance) a registrant has the rights to a domain in that geographic region. (One can think what one wants about the utility of such policies; but it does seem to be the policy in some places.) A -- ---- Andrew Sullivan 204-4141 Yonge Street Afilias Canada Toronto, Ontario Canada <andrew@ca.afilias.info> M2P 2A8 +1 416 646 3304 x4110 Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JIsnXo002349 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:54:49 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6JIsnNT011583 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:54:49 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from ogud.com (ns.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JIsm0k008728 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:54:49 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [10.31.32.204] (ns.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JIsgxS024862; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:54:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <a06200703bf02fc4d5196@[10.31.32.204]> In-Reply-To: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EB64@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EB64@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:53:37 -0400 To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> From: Edward Lewis <Ed.Lewis@Neustar.biz> Subject: RE: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Cc: "Edward Lewis" <Ed.Lewis@Neustar.biz>, <ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk At 14:47 -0400 7/19/05, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: >If I remember correctly (and it's possible I won't), all of the >"pending" stuff was added as a result of people wanting to allow some >sort of offline review/processing before some "final" state was entered. >I personally think it makes the protocol a little kludgy, but I believe >there was a need to try to match operational realities. I hate it when reality gets in the way of a good protocol. ;) I think you remember correctly though. There was mention of non-near-real-time, off-line component to activities in the WG. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar If you knew what I was thinking, you'd understand what I was saying. Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JIlYcJ005142 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:47:34 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6JIlYmj013724 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:47:34 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from eagle.verisign.com (eagle.verisign.com [216.168.239.70]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JIlXoW008600 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:47:33 +0200 (MEST) Received: from dul1wnexcn01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (dul1wnexcn01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.170.12.138]) by eagle.verisign.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6JIaNad010489; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:36:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([10.170.12.134]) by dul1wnexcn01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:47:29 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:47:50 -0400 Message-ID: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5EB64@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Thread-Index: AcWMkOOhZkhFmsCzRsesiNmtPfaNVQAAE3oA From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> To: "Edward Lewis" <Ed.Lewis@Neustar.biz> Cc: <ietf-provreg@cafax.se> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Jul 2005 18:47:29.0613 (UTC) FILETIME=[50A67FD0:01C58C92] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nic.cafax.se id j6JIlYoW013046 Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk Thanks for the thoughts, Ed. > I talked this over with the developers in-house - I'd (we'd) > recommend altering the pendingDelete rule (first option). That's what I originally intended with 3915, but it may mean a text change to 3731 to ensure that the intention is clear. Not necessarily a big deal. > And, stepping back a bit, why have a "pendingX" if X can't be > prevented? (I understand that there may be latency in doing X, but > as far as a protocol like EPP is concerned, why distinguish the > pending state?) If I remember correctly (and it's possible I won't), all of the "pending" stuff was added as a result of people wanting to allow some sort of offline review/processing before some "final" state was entered. I personally think it makes the protocol a little kludgy, but I believe there was a need to try to match operational realities. > Do you think that this change needs a re-spin at PS? (Not that it > matters much, the "6-month delay" required as *one* of the steps to > DS was spent in the RFC editor queue last time we made it to PS. ;) ) > Maybe with a change like this we ought to dub it EPP 1.1. We might be able to avoid a spin if we avoid schema changes. Text changes alone might qualify as "clarifications". Any change to the schemas likely puts us in 1.1 territory. -Scott- Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JIbCVp006233 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:37:12 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6JIbCwf021612 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:37:12 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from ogud.com (ns.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JIb9F3001965 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:37:11 +0200 (MEST) Received: from [10.31.32.204] (ns.ogud.com [66.92.146.160]) by ogud.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6JIaxkA024760; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:37:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <a06200702bf02f7762f1f@[10.31.32.204]> In-Reply-To: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5E434@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> References: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5E434@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:37:13 -0400 To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> From: Edward Lewis <Ed.Lewis@Neustar.biz> Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Cc: <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>, "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.52 on 66.92.146.160 Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk At 10:35 -0400 7/11/05, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: >This can be addressed in a few different ways: > >- Modify 3731 to change the pendingDelete rule in a >non-RGP-extension-specific way. >- Modify 3915 to note that the extended <domain:update> is an exception >to the pendingDelete rule. This was my original intention, but I agree >that it's not clearly specified that way. Section 4.2.5 already does >this for a related update situation. >- Modify 3915 extensively to perform RGP processing some other way. > >There may be other possibilities. Opinions? I talked this over with the developers in-house - I'd (we'd) recommend altering the pendingDelete rule (first option). For one, this minimizes the changes to the documented specificiations (and hence code). And, stepping back a bit, why have a "pendingX" if X can't be prevented? (I understand that there may be latency in doing X, but as far as a protocol like EPP is concerned, why distinguish the pending state?) >So, this is a request for information. Have any other conflicts or >ambiguities been discovered? Depending on what we find we may be able >to move the documents to Draft Standard status by making editorial >changes (such as fixing examples). Protocol changes (text or XML >Schema) typically require a re-spin at Proposed Standard before they can >be advanced to Draft. Applications AD Ted Hardie can provide more >guidance once we know what needs to be changed. We might even need to >create a new working group if significant issues are identified. Do you think that this change needs a re-spin at PS? (Not that it matters much, the "6-month delay" required as *one* of the steps to DS was spent in the RFC editor queue last time we made it to PS. ;) ) Maybe with a change like this we ought to dub it EPP 1.1. BTW - I've seen references to EPP "v6". I'm assuming that that is the -06 drafts, not a successor to the RFC version nor EPP for IPv6. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis +1-571-434-5468 NeuStar If you knew what I was thinking, you'd understand what I was saying. 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Hi all, On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 10:35:09AM -0400, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > So, this is a request for information. Have any other conflicts or > ambiguities been discovered? I've been working on an I-D detailing some of the Afilias experiences with implementation. I've unfortunately missed the most recent cut off, but them's the breaks. Once I've completed this, I'll be sure to forward it here. Aside from the three Scott mentioned, and the one Janusz sent, I haven't run into any other outright conflicts; but I do think that some improvements are needed, mostly having to do with flexibility. A -- ---- Andrew Sullivan 204-4141 Yonge Street Afilias Canada Toronto, Ontario Canada <andrew@ca.afilias.info> M2P 2A8 +1 416 646 3304 x4110 Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6CG84SY023725 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:08:04 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6CG84sR016065 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:08:04 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from mail.libertyrms.com (vgateway.libertyrms.info [207.219.45.62] (may be forged)) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6CG82vo002520 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:08:03 +0200 (MEST) Received: from dev3.int.libertyrms.com ([10.1.3.40] helo=ca.afilias.info) by mail.libertyrms.com with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1DsNIf-00055P-EC; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:08:01 -0400 Message-ID: <42D3EB12.8070900@ca.afilias.info> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 12:08:50 -0400 From: janusz <janusz@ca.afilias.info> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>, ietf-provreg@cafax.se Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates References: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5E434@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5E434@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: janusz@ca.afilias.info X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: >RFC 3915 (ICANN RGP extension to RFC 3731): >I don't believe that this one has been described on-list, so here it is. >RFC 3731 says this: > >"With one exception, transform commands MUST be rejected when a >pendingCreate, pendingDelete, pendingRenew, pendingTransfer, or >pendingUpdate status is set. The only exception is that a <transfer> >command to approve, reject, or cancel a transfer MAY be processed while >an object is in "pendingTransfer" status." > >As defined by ICANN, the redemption grace period starts when a domain >has entered pendingDelete status after expiration. According to 3731, >this means that no <domain:update> transform operations are allowed. >3915 uses an extended <domain:update> command to "restore" a domain >before it can be deleted. This appears to cause a conflict with the >"MUST be rejected" specified in 3731. > >This can be addressed in a few different ways: > >- Modify 3731 to change the pendingDelete rule in a >non-RGP-extension-specific way. >- Modify 3915 to note that the extended <domain:update> is an exception >to the pendingDelete rule. This was my original intention, but I agree >that it's not clearly specified that way. Section 4.2.5 already does >this for a related update situation. >- Modify 3915 extensively to perform RGP processing some other way. > >There may be other possibilities. Opinions? > > > I see another way of resolving the conflict between 3731 and 3915 documents. The approach could eliminate any need for exceptions related to pending status values. Unfortunatelly more changes to both 3731 and 3915 would be necessary. Here is how it would work. A mechanism could be introduced for all commands that may result in "pending action" to at least cancel the pending state. Such mechanism is already defined for transfer command as "op" attribute. With some adjustments the transfer mechanism based on "op" attribute could be "reused" for create, update, delete and renew commands. To minimize impact on existing EPP implementations the attribute could be OPTIONAL with default value "request". After introducing "op" attribute to at least delete command 3915 document can be modified to define rgp restore request as an extension to delete command instead of update. The request would look like: <command> <delete op="cancel"> ... </delete> <extension> <rgp:delete> </rgp:delete> </extension> </command> The proposed cancellation mechanism would eliminate not just the conflict between 3731 and 3915 but also any similiar conflict in the future. The mechanism could also improve protocol architecture by restoring some symetry between transfer and (create, update, delete, renew) commands. Janusz Sienkiewicz Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6BIuNKT023295 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:56:23 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6BIuNMI002079 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:56:23 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from falcon.verisign.com (falcon.verisign.com [216.168.239.71]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6BIuLuV028413 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:56:22 +0200 (MEST) Received: from dul1wnexcn03.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (dul1wnexcn03.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.170.12.113]) by falcon.verisign.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6BImRoi025162; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 14:48:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([10.170.12.134]) by dul1wnexcn03.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 11 Jul 2005 14:56:19 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: RE: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 14:56:33 -0400 Message-ID: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5E4B1@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Thread-Index: AcWGLeyNWpAksxDmSQKOFDGijUCLMgAHE2Og From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> To: "janusz" <janusz@ca.afilias.info>, <ietf-provreg@cafax.se> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2005 18:56:19.0865 (UTC) FILETIME=[39668890:01C5864A] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nic.cafax.se id j6BIuMuV002987 Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk Good catch -- thanks! -Scott- > -----Original Message----- > From: janusz [mailto:janusz@ca.afilias.info] > Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:34 AM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott; ietf-provreg@cafax.se > Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates > > There is probably a small error in contact transfer sample response > (section 3.2.4 EPP of RFC 3733, page 22). Element <result> in the > sample response does not reflect pending action. The current sample > response is inconsistent with relevant sample response for > domain object > mapping (section 3.2.4 of RFC 3731, page 26). > > Janusz Sienkiewicz > > > Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > > >I recently received some information that prompts me to ask > this group a > >question about the need to update one or more of the EPP RFCs. This > >isn't at all unusual. After all, "Proposed Standard" implies that > >implementation experience may uncover issues that went > undetected during > >the usual working group and IETF review processes. There is > one issue > >with the working group documents that I already know about. > > > >RFC 3730 (EPP core): > >http://www.cafax.se/ietf-provreg/maillist/2004-11/msg00005.html > >This is an error in the descriptive text and an error in an example. > > > >In addition, I've been advised of other issues in two individual > >submission extension documents I wrote. While not working group > >documents, these should also be revised if any changes are > made to the > >core document(s): > > > >RFC 4114 (ENUM extension to RFC 3731 (the domain mapping)): > >http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/enum/current/msg03654.html > >This is an error in an example. > > > >RFC 3915 (ICANN RGP extension to RFC 3731): > >I don't believe that this one has been described on-list, so > here it is. > >RFC 3731 says this: > > > >"With one exception, transform commands MUST be rejected when a > >pendingCreate, pendingDelete, pendingRenew, pendingTransfer, or > >pendingUpdate status is set. The only exception is that a <transfer> > >command to approve, reject, or cancel a transfer MAY be > processed while > >an object is in "pendingTransfer" status." > > > >As defined by ICANN, the redemption grace period starts when a domain > >has entered pendingDelete status after expiration. > According to 3731, > >this means that no <domain:update> transform operations are allowed. > >3915 uses an extended <domain:update> command to "restore" a domain > >before it can be deleted. This appears to cause a conflict with the > >"MUST be rejected" specified in 3731. > > > >This can be addressed in a few different ways: > > > >- Modify 3731 to change the pendingDelete rule in a > >non-RGP-extension-specific way. > >- Modify 3915 to note that the extended <domain:update> is > an exception > >to the pendingDelete rule. This was my original intention, > but I agree > >that it's not clearly specified that way. Section 4.2.5 already does > >this for a related update situation. > >- Modify 3915 extensively to perform RGP processing some other way. > > > >There may be other possibilities. Opinions? > > > >So, this is a request for information. Have any other conflicts or > >ambiguities been discovered? Depending on what we find we > may be able > >to move the documents to Draft Standard status by making editorial > >changes (such as fixing examples). Protocol changes (text or XML > >Schema) typically require a re-spin at Proposed Standard > before they can > >be advanced to Draft. Applications AD Ted Hardie can provide more > >guidance once we know what needs to be changed. We might > even need to > >create a new working group if significant issues are identified. > > > >-Scott- > > > > > > > > > Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6BFXjmp021488 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:33:45 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6BFXj0q008864 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:33:45 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from mail.libertyrms.com (vgateway.libertyrms.info [207.219.45.62] (may be forged)) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6BFXiov028191 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:33:45 +0200 (MEST) Received: from dev3.int.libertyrms.com ([10.1.3.40] helo=ca.afilias.info) by mail.libertyrms.com with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1Ds0Hs-0008BJ-Ko; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:33:40 -0400 Message-ID: <42D29181.7040607@ca.afilias.info> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 11:34:25 -0400 From: janusz <janusz@ca.afilias.info> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>, ietf-provreg@cafax.se Subject: Re: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates References: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5E434@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> In-Reply-To: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5E434@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: janusz@ca.afilias.info X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk There is probably a small error in contact transfer sample response (section 3.2.4 EPP of RFC 3733, page 22). Element <result> in the sample response does not reflect pending action. The current sample response is inconsistent with relevant sample response for domain object mapping (section 3.2.4 of RFC 3731, page 26). Janusz Sienkiewicz Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: >I recently received some information that prompts me to ask this group a >question about the need to update one or more of the EPP RFCs. This >isn't at all unusual. After all, "Proposed Standard" implies that >implementation experience may uncover issues that went undetected during >the usual working group and IETF review processes. There is one issue >with the working group documents that I already know about. > >RFC 3730 (EPP core): >http://www.cafax.se/ietf-provreg/maillist/2004-11/msg00005.html >This is an error in the descriptive text and an error in an example. > >In addition, I've been advised of other issues in two individual >submission extension documents I wrote. While not working group >documents, these should also be revised if any changes are made to the >core document(s): > >RFC 4114 (ENUM extension to RFC 3731 (the domain mapping)): >http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/enum/current/msg03654.html >This is an error in an example. > >RFC 3915 (ICANN RGP extension to RFC 3731): >I don't believe that this one has been described on-list, so here it is. >RFC 3731 says this: > >"With one exception, transform commands MUST be rejected when a >pendingCreate, pendingDelete, pendingRenew, pendingTransfer, or >pendingUpdate status is set. The only exception is that a <transfer> >command to approve, reject, or cancel a transfer MAY be processed while >an object is in "pendingTransfer" status." > >As defined by ICANN, the redemption grace period starts when a domain >has entered pendingDelete status after expiration. According to 3731, >this means that no <domain:update> transform operations are allowed. >3915 uses an extended <domain:update> command to "restore" a domain >before it can be deleted. This appears to cause a conflict with the >"MUST be rejected" specified in 3731. > >This can be addressed in a few different ways: > >- Modify 3731 to change the pendingDelete rule in a >non-RGP-extension-specific way. >- Modify 3915 to note that the extended <domain:update> is an exception >to the pendingDelete rule. This was my original intention, but I agree >that it's not clearly specified that way. Section 4.2.5 already does >this for a related update situation. >- Modify 3915 extensively to perform RGP processing some other way. > >There may be other possibilities. Opinions? > >So, this is a request for information. Have any other conflicts or >ambiguities been discovered? Depending on what we find we may be able >to move the documents to Draft Standard status by making editorial >changes (such as fixing examples). Protocol changes (text or XML >Schema) typically require a re-spin at Proposed Standard before they can >be advanced to Draft. Applications AD Ted Hardie can provide more >guidance once we know what needs to be changed. We might even need to >create a new working group if significant issues are identified. > >-Scott- > > > Return-Path: <owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Received: from nic.cafax.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6BEYvB3029893 for <ietf-provreg-outgoing@nic.cafax.se>; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:34:57 +0200 (MEST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j6BEYvdF020248 for ietf-provreg-outgoing; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:34:57 +0200 (MEST) X-Authentication-Warning: nic.cafax.se: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se using -f Received: from eagle.verisign.com (eagle.verisign.com [216.168.239.70]) by nic.cafax.se (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6BEYusn015271 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:34:57 +0200 (MEST) Received: from dul1wnexcn03.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com (dul1wnexcn03.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com [10.170.12.113]) by eagle.verisign.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6BEO0ad013601 for <ietf-provreg@cafax.se>; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com ([10.170.12.134]) by dul1wnexcn03.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:34:55 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: [ietf-provreg] EPP Document Updates Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 10:35:09 -0400 Message-ID: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07B5E434@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: EPP Document Updates Thread-Index: AcWGJb0yeRgTtPlqQD+9gffq7Bz4Yg== From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> To: <ietf-provreg@cafax.se> Cc: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jul 2005 14:34:55.0086 (UTC) FILETIME=[B48B30E0:01C58625] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nic.cafax.se id j6BEYvsn007662 Sender: owner-ietf-provreg@cafax.se Precedence: bulk I recently received some information that prompts me to ask this group a question about the need to update one or more of the EPP RFCs. This isn't at all unusual. After all, "Proposed Standard" implies that implementation experience may uncover issues that went undetected during the usual working group and IETF review processes. There is one issue with the working group documents that I already know about. RFC 3730 (EPP core): http://www.cafax.se/ietf-provreg/maillist/2004-11/msg00005.html This is an error in the descriptive text and an error in an example. In addition, I've been advised of other issues in two individual submission extension documents I wrote. While not working group documents, these should also be revised if any changes are made to the core document(s): RFC 4114 (ENUM extension to RFC 3731 (the domain mapping)): http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/enum/current/msg03654.html This is an error in an example. RFC 3915 (ICANN RGP extension to RFC 3731): I don't believe that this one has been described on-list, so here it is. RFC 3731 says this: "With one exception, transform commands MUST be rejected when a pendingCreate, pendingDelete, pendingRenew, pendingTransfer, or pendingUpdate status is set. The only exception is that a <transfer> command to approve, reject, or cancel a transfer MAY be processed while an object is in "pendingTransfer" status." As defined by ICANN, the redemption grace period starts when a domain has entered pendingDelete status after expiration. According to 3731, this means that no <domain:update> transform operations are allowed. 3915 uses an extended <domain:update> command to "restore" a domain before it can be deleted. This appears to cause a conflict with the "MUST be rejected" specified in 3731. This can be addressed in a few different ways: - Modify 3731 to change the pendingDelete rule in a non-RGP-extension-specific way. - Modify 3915 to note that the extended <domain:update> is an exception to the pendingDelete rule. This was my original intention, but I agree that it's not clearly specified that way. Section 4.2.5 already does this for a related update situation. - Modify 3915 extensively to perform RGP processing some other way. There may be other possibilities. Opinions? So, this is a request for information. Have any other conflicts or ambiguities been discovered? Depending on what we find we may be able to move the documents to Draft Standard status by making editorial changes (such as fixing examples). Protocol changes (text or XML Schema) typically require a re-spin at Proposed Standard before they can be advanced to Draft. Applications AD Ted Hardie can provide more guidance once we know what needs to be changed. 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