Re: [proxies] [IETF Proxy] Next Steps

Klaas Wierenga <klaas@wierenga.net> Tue, 06 May 2008 08:57 UTC

Return-Path: <proxies-bounces@ietf.org>
X-Original-To: proxies-archive@ietf.org
Delivered-To: ietfarch-proxies-archive@core3.amsl.com
Received: from core3.amsl.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733713A6BA7; Tue, 6 May 2008 01:57:52 -0700 (PDT)
X-Original-To: proxies@core3.amsl.com
Delivered-To: proxies@core3.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A36D3A6B10 for <proxies@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 6 May 2008 01:57:51 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -5.11
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.11 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-1.11, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zZhgGNGaHnQU for <proxies@core3.amsl.com>; Tue, 6 May 2008 01:57:50 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from ams-iport-1.cisco.com (ams-iport-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.140]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8DCA3A6B1E for <proxies@ietf.org>; Tue, 6 May 2008 01:57:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.27,442,1204498800"; d="scan'208";a="8108290"
Received: from ams-dkim-1.cisco.com ([144.254.224.138]) by ams-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 06 May 2008 10:57:46 +0200
Received: from ams-core-1.cisco.com (ams-core-1.cisco.com [144.254.224.150]) by ams-dkim-1.cisco.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m468vkAV009151; Tue, 6 May 2008 10:57:46 +0200
Received: from xbh-ams-332.emea.cisco.com (xbh-ams-332.cisco.com [144.254.231.87]) by ams-core-1.cisco.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m468vk7w005732; Tue, 6 May 2008 08:57:46 GMT
Received: from xfe-ams-332.cisco.com ([144.254.231.73]) by xbh-ams-332.emea.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 6 May 2008 10:57:46 +0200
Received: from klaas-wierengas-macbook-air.local ([10.61.81.166]) by xfe-ams-332.cisco.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 6 May 2008 10:57:46 +0200
Message-ID: <48201D8A.5030900@wierenga.net>
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 10:57:46 +0200
From: Klaas Wierenga <klaas@wierenga.net>
User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Stefan Winter <stefan.winter@restena.lu>
References: <7.0.1.0.2.20080416172531.02401228@nist.gov> <200804171550.48931.stefan.winter@restena.lu> <057433e024b8d47267adf9fd0379bd6b.squirrel@www.trepanning.net> <48200024.80801@restena.lu>
In-Reply-To: <48200024.80801@restena.lu>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2008 08:57:46.0466 (UTC) FILETIME=[40D33C20:01C8AF57]
Authentication-Results: ams-dkim-1; header.From=klaas@wierenga.net; dkim=neutral
Cc: proxies@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [proxies] [IETF Proxy] Next Steps
X-BeenThere: proxies@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
Precedence: list
List-Id: Discussion list for ad hoc group interested in security and proxies <proxies.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/proxies>, <mailto:proxies-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:proxies@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:proxies-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/proxies>, <mailto:proxies-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Sender: proxies-bounces@ietf.org
Errors-To: proxies-bounces@ietf.org

Stefan Winter wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Hi dan, all,
> 
> |   It has been pointed out to me that I may be misunderstanding Stefan's
> | intent by latching on the word "political" and running with it.
> 
> Well, I wondered myself if my choice of word was good. In fact, I was
> not refering to political as in: laws, jurisdiction, courts, prime
> ministers, presidents... but as in non-technical, managerial,
> financial-driven, contractual-driven etc.

I guess you could say that the proxy's are a policy enforcement point...

Klaas
_______________________________________________
Proxies mailing list
Proxies@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/proxies