[ptth] Re: Restarting the PTTH effort - BoF in Vienna?

[Philipp Tiesel <[e-mail]>]

Hi David,

Thanks for bringing this up again!
I support having a BoF in Vienna!

> On 14. May 2026, at 02:39, David Schinazi <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> Hi PTTH enthusiasts,
> 
> We had a great non-working-group-forming BoF in Madrid, followed by some good list discussion on a potential charter in September, but then things died down. I've spoken to multiple proponents and it sounds like there were a few competing priorities that distracted folks in Montreal, and then many weren't in Shenzhen, but we are looking forward to Vienna.
> 
> My main question is: should we hold a working-group-forming BoF in Vienna? If you think yes, please indicate your enthusiasm here! And then, come and check out our draft proposed charter [1].

I read through it and like it as a starting point as it describes the problem well and is not biased against any possible solution yet.

> Another question: should the charter be more opinionated about the overall shape of the solution? We've seen two shapes proposed:
> (a) using a CONNECT stream to do PTTH alongside other HTTP traffic [2]
> (b) using a new ALPN that flips the entire connection [3]
> 
> As currently written, the draft proposed charter would allow either and permit the conversation to be had in the proposed WG. Alternatively, we could make this architectural decision before chartering. Which do you prefer?

I have a strong preference for (a), as I consider (b) quite hacky, but would also be fine to end up with doing both.
I guess it is a good discussion point for the BOF.

AVE!
   Philipp

> 
> Thanks,
> David, 🥔 enthusiast
> 
> PS: the BoF deadline is next Friday (2026-05-22) so please reply before then.
> 
> [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oo-3TGTIhARjlVc1ENcS-QfBGYrSjxrktAUpiMd8K4Q/edit
> [2] https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-rosomakho-masque-reverse-connect-00.html
> [3] https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-thomson-ptth-potato-00.html
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