Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter v0.1**
Danny McPherson <danny@tcb.net> Fri, 02 May 2008 18:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter v0.1**
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On May 2, 2008, at 7:50 AM, Danny McPherson wrote: > Folks, > Time for that periodic charter refresh and update. If you've > got comments, send'm along, as we'd like to get this off to the > IAB for approval. s/IAB/IESG/, of course :-) -danny > > > Please consider this a 2 week call for input, ending on 5/16. > > Thanks much! > > -danny > > ---- > v0.1 > Pseudowire Emulation Edge to Edge (pwe3) > Additional information is available at http://tools.ietf.org/wg/pwe3 > > Chair(s): > > Danny McPherson <danny@arbor.net> > Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com> > > Internet Area Director(s): > Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net> > Mark Townsley <townsley@cisco.com> > > Internet Area Advisor: > Mark Townsley <townsley@cisco.com> > > Technical Advisor(s): > Allison Mankin <mankin@psg.com> > > Secretary(ies): > Matthew Bocci <matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.co.uk> > > Mailing Lists: > General Discussion: pwe3@ietf.org > To Subscribe: pwe3-request@ietf.org > In Body: subscribe your_email_address > Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pwe3/index.html > > Description of Working Group: > > Network transport service providers and their users are > seeking to rationalize their networks by migrating their > existing services and platforms onto IP or MPLS enabled > IP packet switched networks (PSN). This migration requires > communications services that can emulate the essential > properties of traditional communications links over a PSN. > Some service providers wish to use MPLS technology to > replace existing transport network infrastructure, relying > upon pseudowire technology is an integral component of > these network convergence architectures. > > Pseudowire Emulation Edge to Edge (PWE3) will specify the > encapsulation, transport, control, management, interworking > and security of services emulated over IETF-specified PSNs. > > A pseudowire emulates a point-to-point or point-to-multipoint > link, and provides a single service which is perceived by > its user as an unshared link or circuit of the chosen > service. It is not intended that an emulated service will > be indistinguishable from the service that is being emulated. > The emulation need only be sufficient for the satisfactory > operation of the service. Emulation necessarily involves a > degree of cost-performance trade-off. In some cases it may > be necessary to design more than one emulation mechanism in > order to resolve these design conflicts. All emulated service > definitions must include an applicability statement describing > the faithfulness of the emulation. > > Switching, multiplexing, modification or other operation on > the traditional service, unless required as part of the > emulation, is out of the scope of the PWE3 WG. > > PWE3 will make use of existing IETF-specified mechanisms > unless there are technical reasons why the existing mechanisms > are insufficient or unnecessary. > > PWE3 operates "edge to edge" and will not exert control on > the underlying PSN, other than to use any existing QoS or > path control mechanism to provide the required connectivity > between the endpoints of the PW. > > PWE3 will specify requirements for clock recovery and other > real-time signaling functions needed by PW types that it > is designing. It will co-ordinate this with the AVT and > TICTOC WGs. Where AVT or TICTOC require extensions to > PWs to support time or frequency transfer this work will be > undertaken by the PWE3 WG in co-ordination with the these > WGs. > > A PW operating over a shared PSN does not necessarily have > the same intrinsic security as a dedicated, purpose built, > network. In some cases this is satisfactory, while in other > cases it will be necessary to enhance the security of the PW > to emulate the intrinsic security of the emulated service. > PW specifications MUST include a description of how they > are to be operated over a shared PSN with adequate security. > PWE3 will work with the MPLS, L2VPN and other relevant WGs > for definitions of common solutions for the secure operation > of pseudowires. > > Whilst a service provider may traffic engineer their network > in such a way that PW traffic will not cause significant > congestion, a PW deployed by an end-user may cause > congestion of the underlying PSN. Suitable congestion > avoidance mechanisms are therefore needed to protect the > Internet from the unconstrained deployment of PWs. > > PWE3 will work closely with the L2VPN WG to ensure a clear > demarcation is defined for where PWE3 stops and L2VPN starts, > in particular in defining point-multipoint (P2MP) PWs. > > PWE3 will work with MPLS and L2VPN to enhance the OAM suite > for transport applications. PWE3 will coordinate very closely > with any WG that is responsible for protocols which PWE3 > intends to extend (e.g., the MPLS WG for LDP), as well as > foster interaction with WGs that intend to extend PWE3 > protocols. > > The IETF PWE3 WG is the design authority for pseudo-wire > over IP/MPLS PSN technology. Extensions to this work by other > SDOs needs to invoke the MPLS Change Process, as provided in > RFC 4929. > > WG Objectives: > > Specify the following PW types: > > Most of the initial specific PW types have been specified > (e.g., Frame Realy, Ethernet, ATM). Investigation into > and specification of a "generic PW" type and/or MPLS PW > should be undertaken. > > PWE3 will specify a PW type for the special case where the > access service payloads at both ends are known to consist > entirely of IP packets. PWE3 will not specify mechanisms > by which a PW connects two different access services > unless the Network Layer protocol is IP. > > Specify the control and management functions of chartered PW > types, to include PW setup, configuration, maintenance and > tear-down. The PWE3 WG will do this in its entirety for > MPLS PSNs, and the L2TPEXT WG will develop the L2TP specifics > for L2TPv3-based PWs. > > Specify Operations and Management (OAM) mechanisms for all > PW types, suitable for operation over both IP/L2TPv3 and > MPLS PSNs, and capable of providing the necessary > interworking with the OAM mechanisms of the emulated > service. > > Define requirements for and mechanisms to provide > interconnection of PWs (to include inter-domain PWs). > > Define requirements for and mechanisms to provide > protection and restoration of PWs. > > Publish document outlining PW-specific congestion avoidance > and response guidelines. > > Publish document outlining PW-specific security considerations. > > Publish specification for enabling P2MP PWs. > > Publish requirements and specification for PW load-balancing > mechanisms. > > Publish requirements and specification for enhanced OAM. > > Publish requirements and specifications to provide the > necessary extensions to PWs to support the applications > of MPLS to transport networks. > _______________________________________________ > pwe3 mailing list > pwe3@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3 _______________________________________________ pwe3 mailing list pwe3@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3
- [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter v0.1… Danny McPherson
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … Danny McPherson
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … Danny McPherson
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … Yaakov Stein
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … Stewart Bryant
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … Loa Andersson
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … Stewart Bryant
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … Yaakov Stein
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … Stewart Bryant
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … Rahul Aggarwal
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … Yaakov Stein
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … BOCCI Matthew
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … Yaakov Stein
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … BOCCI Matthew
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … frederic.jounay
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … Maarten Vissers
- Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter … Maarten Vissers