Re: [PWE3] PWE3 Charter Update - **DRAFT Charter v0.1**

Danny McPherson <danny@tcb.net> Fri, 02 May 2008 18:45 UTC

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On May 2, 2008, at 7:50 AM, Danny McPherson wrote:

> Folks,
> Time for that periodic charter refresh and update.  If you've
> got comments, send'm along, as we'd like to get this off to the
> IAB for approval.

s/IAB/IESG/, of course :-)

-danny

>
>
> Please consider this a 2 week call for input, ending on 5/16.
>
> Thanks much!
>
> -danny
>
> ----
> v0.1
> Pseudowire Emulation Edge to Edge (pwe3)
> Additional information is available at http://tools.ietf.org/wg/pwe3
>
> Chair(s):
>
> Danny McPherson <danny@arbor.net>
> Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com>
>
> Internet Area Director(s):
> Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net>
> Mark Townsley <townsley@cisco.com>
>
> Internet Area Advisor:
> Mark Townsley <townsley@cisco.com>
>
> Technical Advisor(s):
> Allison Mankin <mankin@psg.com>
>
> Secretary(ies):
> Matthew Bocci <matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.co.uk>
>
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>
> Description of Working Group:
>
> Network transport service providers and their users are
> seeking to rationalize their networks by migrating their
> existing services and platforms onto IP or MPLS enabled
> IP packet switched networks (PSN). This migration requires
> communications services that can emulate the essential
> properties of traditional communications links over a PSN.
> Some service providers wish to use MPLS technology to
> replace existing transport network infrastructure, relying
> upon pseudowire technology is an integral component of
> these network convergence architectures.
>
> Pseudowire Emulation Edge to Edge (PWE3) will specify the
> encapsulation, transport, control, management, interworking
> and security of services emulated over IETF-specified PSNs.
>
> A pseudowire emulates a point-to-point or point-to-multipoint
> link, and provides a single service which is perceived by
> its user as an unshared link or circuit of the chosen
> service.  It is not intended that an emulated service will
> be indistinguishable from the service that is being emulated.
> The emulation need only be sufficient for the satisfactory
> operation of the service. Emulation necessarily involves a
> degree of cost-performance trade-off.  In some cases it may
> be necessary to design more than one emulation mechanism in
> order to resolve these design conflicts. All emulated service
> definitions must include an applicability statement describing
> the faithfulness of the emulation.
>
> Switching, multiplexing, modification or other operation on
> the traditional service, unless required as part of the
> emulation, is out of the scope of the PWE3 WG.
>
> PWE3 will make use of existing IETF-specified mechanisms
> unless there are technical reasons why the existing mechanisms
> are insufficient or unnecessary.
>
> PWE3 operates "edge to edge" and will not exert control on
> the underlying PSN, other than to use any existing QoS or
> path control mechanism to provide the required connectivity
> between the endpoints of the PW.
>
> PWE3 will specify requirements for clock recovery and other
> real-time signaling functions needed by PW types that it
> is designing. It will co-ordinate this with the AVT and
> TICTOC WGs. Where AVT or TICTOC require extensions to
> PWs to support time or frequency transfer this work will be
> undertaken by the PWE3 WG in co-ordination with the these
> WGs.
>
> A PW operating over a shared PSN does not necessarily have
> the same intrinsic security as a dedicated, purpose built,
> network. In some cases this is satisfactory, while in other
> cases it will be necessary to enhance the security of the PW
> to emulate the intrinsic security of the emulated service.
> PW specifications MUST include a description of how they
> are to be operated over a shared PSN with adequate security.
> PWE3 will work with the MPLS, L2VPN and other relevant WGs
> for definitions of common solutions for the secure operation
> of pseudowires.
>
> Whilst a service provider may traffic engineer their network
> in such a way that PW traffic will not cause significant
> congestion, a PW deployed by an end-user may cause
> congestion of the underlying PSN. Suitable congestion
> avoidance mechanisms are therefore needed to protect the
> Internet from the unconstrained deployment of PWs.
>
> PWE3 will work closely with the L2VPN WG to ensure a clear
> demarcation is defined for where PWE3 stops and L2VPN starts,
> in particular in defining point-multipoint (P2MP) PWs.
>
> PWE3 will work with MPLS and L2VPN to enhance the OAM suite
> for transport applications.  PWE3 will coordinate very closely
> with any WG that is responsible for protocols which PWE3
> intends to extend (e.g., the MPLS WG for LDP), as well as
> foster interaction with WGs that intend to extend PWE3
> protocols.
>
> The IETF PWE3 WG is the design authority for pseudo-wire
> over IP/MPLS PSN technology.  Extensions to this work by other
> SDOs needs to invoke the MPLS Change Process, as provided in
> RFC 4929.
>
> WG Objectives:
>
> Specify the following PW types:
>
> Most of the initial specific PW types have been specified
> (e.g., Frame Realy, Ethernet, ATM).  Investigation into
> and specification of a "generic PW" type and/or MPLS PW
> should be undertaken.
>
> PWE3 will specify a PW type for the special case where the
> access service payloads at both ends are known to consist
> entirely of IP packets. PWE3 will not specify mechanisms
> by which a PW connects two different access services
> unless the Network Layer protocol is IP.
>
> Specify the control and management functions of chartered PW
> types, to include PW setup, configuration, maintenance and
> tear-down. The PWE3 WG will do this in its entirety for
> MPLS PSNs, and the L2TPEXT WG will develop the L2TP specifics
> for L2TPv3-based PWs.
>
> Specify Operations and Management (OAM) mechanisms for all
> PW types, suitable for operation over both IP/L2TPv3 and
> MPLS PSNs, and capable of providing the necessary
> interworking with the OAM mechanisms of the emulated
> service.
>
> Define requirements for and mechanisms to provide
> interconnection of PWs (to include inter-domain PWs).
>
> Define requirements for and mechanisms to provide
> protection and restoration of PWs.
>
> Publish document outlining PW-specific congestion avoidance
> and response guidelines.
>
> Publish document outlining PW-specific security considerations.
>
> Publish specification for enabling P2MP PWs.
>
> Publish requirements and specification for PW load-balancing
> mechanisms.
>
> Publish requirements and specification for enhanced OAM.
>
> Publish requirements and specifications to provide the
> necessary extensions to PWs to support the applications
> of MPLS to transport networks.
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