[Qirg] Re: Internet draft: Clock Sync is not a valid Quantum-Internet Application

Dima Bogdanov <dima.delmar@gmail.com> Wed, 28 January 2026 12:42 UTC

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From: Dima Bogdanov <dima.delmar@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2026 15:42:26 +0300
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No way, so this is all just a theatre?

Have a beautiful day,
Dima


On Wed, Jan 28, 2026 at 14:29 Deventer, M.O. (Oskar) van <oskar.vandeventer=
40tno.nl@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Dear IRTF-QIRG members,
>
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> What are your thoughts on the attached internet draft “Clock Sync is not a
> valid Quantum-Internet Application”?
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> The title is also the main message of the document. RFC 9583
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc9583/> provides application
> scenarios that are used to justify investment in quantum internet. One of
> those is network clock synchronization. RFC 9583 refers to [Jozsa2000],
> [Komar] and [Guo] for this. We studied these papers. We discovered that
> they contain a fatal flaw. They start from the presumption of shared prior
> entanglement between the two synchronizing parties. The fatal flaw is that
> this presumption can only be achieved by also presuming presence of
> perfectly synchronised clocks. This defies the whole purpose of the
> application scenario.
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> As RFCs are final documents, the flaw cannot be corrected in RFC 9583
> itself.
>
>    - One option would be to issue a new RFC that deprecates RFC 9583.
>    - Another option would be a separate RFC that warns people about the
>    flaw in RFC 9583.
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> Please let me know your thoughts.
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> Thank you,
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> Oskar
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> P.S.
>
> Who can help making the internet draft uploadable to the IETF servers?
>
> I have spent four frustrating hours with https://author-tools.ietf.org/
> -> Validate. I keep getting these error messages.
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>   ** The document seems to lack a License Notice according IETF Trust
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>      Provisions of 28 Dec 2009, Section 6.b.ii or Provisions of 12 Sep 2009
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>      Section 6.b -- however, there's a paragraph with a matching beginning.
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>      Boilerplate error?
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>   ** There are 69 instances of too long lines in the document, the longest
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>      one being 3 characters in excess of 72.
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> The first error is incorrect, as the copyright notice is in the document,
> exactly as it should be.
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> The second error is incorrect, as all the lines have exactly the correct
> length.
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> Dr. ir. M.O. van Deventer (Oskar)
> Senior Scientist Self-Sovereign Identity & Quantum Standardisation
> ICT, Strategy & Policy
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