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[quicwg/base-drafts] Treat client and server as equals (#462)

MikkelFJ <notifications@github.com> Tue, 25 April 2017 18:00 UTC

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From: MikkelFJ <notifications@github.com>
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Subject: [quicwg/base-drafts] Treat client and server as equals (#462)
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The draft appears to be focusing on a client server model such as an http server, but client and server can be peers, for example in peer to peer file sharing networks.

This becomes visible in 
https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/170
where the client may experience highly likely collisions because the server is not required to generate random identifiers. The client is then forced to rely on dest address, but this ties the protocol to IP/UDP more than necessary.

It can also be seen in the assymetric direction of PUBLIC_RESET. A client cannot, in the current draft, shut down a connection like a server can, after a crash. Mentioned here
https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/442


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