RE: Historic TLS Discussion

Nicholas Warren <nwarren@barryelectric.com> Mon, 22 January 2024 18:33 UTC

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From: Nicholas Warren <nwarren@barryelectric.com>
To: Nick Harper <ietf@nharper.org>
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Subject: RE: Historic TLS Discussion
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Nick,

I had read over the discussion from 2020 (A non-TLS standard is needed) and it sounded like TLS was an axiom of the working group.

Thank you for the quick clarification.

Nich Warren

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That discussion would've happened during the WG formation. That QUIC uses TLS has been in the WG charter since the first draft that I see on the datatracker, and the original approved charter calls out a key goal of "Providing always-secure transport, using TLS 1.3 by default."

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:12 AM Nicholas Warren <nwarren@barryelectric.com<mailto:nwarren@barryelectric.com>> wrote:
Hello quic wg.

I am curious about how quic seemingly mandates usage of TLS (rfc9000 section 5); albeit I have not completely read quic-tls.

Does anyone remember when you all discussed this? I was hoping to go back and read the archived list from when the discussion had taken place.

Thanks,
Nich Warren