Re: Fw: [External] New Version Notification for draft-chen-quic-quicu-01.txt

[Ryan Hamilton <[e-mail]>]

QUIC has support for unreliable data via the DATAGRAM frame, RFC 9221
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc9221>. It seems that this new proposal
attempts to add unreliable data support not to QUIC, but to QUIC *streams*.
QUIC streams, of course, offer a reliable, in-order, sequence of bytes. Did
you consider starting with DATAGRAMs, and building from there instead?

Cheers,

Ryan

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 1:14 AM 于涌溢 <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Deal all,
>
> We would like to introduce an extension of the QUIC protocol for
> unreliable data transmission called QUIC Unreliable (QUICU) . The following
> draft is submitted for your consideration and comments. We would also like
> to present this at IETF 115 to discuss further.
>
> To summarize on this draft: it describes an extension of the QUIC protocol
> for unreliable data transmission called QUIC Unreliable (QUICU), which
> mainly through the definition and use of three new types of frames, namely
> the Expire Offset Frame, Boundary Frame, and Correlation Frame. The main
> purpose of this extension is to reduce data delivery delay. Through
> controlling the timing and scope of packet losses, QUICU reduces useless
> transmission to improve transmission efficiency, reduces head-of-line
> blocking to improve transmission timeliness, which are beneficial to
> delay-sensitive applications, especially audio and video applications. This
> document describes the motivation, the operations, and the wire formats of
> the three new types of frames.
>
> Link to html:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-chen-quic-quicu-01
>
> Please feel free to reach us for any comments or questions on this.
>
> Thanks,
> Yongyi.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: [e-mail]
> Date: Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 20:54
> Subject: [External] New Version Notification for
> draft-chen-quic-quicu-01.txt
> To: "Jianping Chen"<[e-mail]>, "Junxian Jing"<
> [e-mail]>, "Tianyi Liu"<[e-mail]>,
> "Yongyi Yu"<[e-mail]>
> A new version of I-D, draft-chen-quic-quicu-01.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Yongyi Yu and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>
> Name:                draft-chen-quic-quicu
> Revision:        01
> Title:                An Unreliable Extension to QUIC
> Document date:        2022-09-19
> Group:                Individual Submission
> Pages:                10
> URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-chen-quic-quicu-01.txt
> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-quic-quicu/
> Htmlized:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-chen-quic-quicu
> Diff:           https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-chen-quic-quicu-01
>
> Abstract:
>   QUIC Unreliable (QUICU) is an extension of the QUIC protocol for
>   unreliable data transmission, mainly through the definition and use
>   of three new types of frames, namely the Expire Offset Frame,
>   Boundary Frame, and Correlation Frame. The main purpose of this
>   extension is to reduce data delivery delay. Through controlling the
>   timing and scope of packet losses, QUICU reduces useless transmission
>   to improve transmission efficiency, reduces head-of-line blocking to
>   improve transmission timeliness, which are beneficial to delay-
>   sensitive applications, especially audio and video applications.
>
>   This document describes the motivation, the operations, and the wire
>   formats of the three new types of frames.
>
>
>
>
> The IETF Secretariat
>