Re: Call for Adoption: Careful resumption of congestion control from retained state with QUIC

Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com> Fri, 09 September 2022 22:46 UTC

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From: Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 15:46:31 -0700
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Subject: Re: Call for Adoption: Careful resumption of congestion control from retained state with QUIC
To: Matt Joras <matt.joras@gmail.com>
Cc: Piers O'Hanlon <piers.ohanlon@bbc.co.uk>, Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>, "quic@ietf.org" <quic@ietf.org>
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(AD hat on)

I agree that a congestion control WG would be a fine venue for this; as
it's not even chartered, we could incorporate. However, as that process is
going slower than I'd like, the authors are welcome to try tsvwg if they
don't want to wait.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 10:50 AM Matt Joras <matt.joras@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> To close the loop here, we'd like to thank all respondents to the call for
> adoption. The chairs' sense of the feedback is that while this is useful
> work that people support at the IETF, it is work in a problem space is more
> broadly to do with congestion control and not entirely QUIC specific. As
> such, this work is most likely suited to another working group.
> Coincidentally, parallel to the adoption call for careful resume, the
> Transport Area ADs launched a proposal for a new congestion control focused
> WG. This was discussed on the TSVAREA list and during the IETF 114 session,
> with next steps posted to the list [1]. A few respondents identified that
> this new group, should it form, would be a suitable venue for such a
> document.
> Based on the feedback we have received, together with other activity in
> the IETF, the chairs have judged there is not currently consensus for
> adopting careful resume to the QUIC WG.
>
> Matt & Lucas
> [1] -
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tsv-area/r_4jPmT55sKl0iumvIPklITb9gc/
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 4:59 AM Piers O'Hanlon <piers.ohanlon@bbc.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> I agree it would something useful to work on (given the Linux Kernel has
>> provided something similar for tcp with its `ip tcp_metrics` for some time)
>> but it seems more general so other working groups could benefit from.
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 25 Jul 2022, at 17:16, Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Reminder: the adoption call ends in several hours.
>> >
>> > If you have yet to comment, please do so soon.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>