Fwd: Security directorate review of draft-ietf-quic-http-32
Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> Tue, 17 November 2020 05:17 UTC
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Subject: Fwd: Security directorate review of draft-ietf-quic-http-32
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> Begin forwarded message: > > From: "Hilarie Orman" <hilarie@purplestreak.com> > Subject: Security directorate review of draft-ietf-quic-http-32 > Date: November 17, 2020 at 6:56:26 GMT+2 > To: iesg@ietf.org, secdir@ietf.org > Cc: draft-ietf-quic-http.all@ietf.org > Resent-From: <alias-bounces@ietf.org> > Resent-From: <alias-bounces@ietf.org> > Resent-To: lars@eggert.org, lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com > Resent-To: mbishop@evequefou.be, lars@eggert.org, lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com, magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com, martin.h.duke@gmail.com, quic-chairs@ietf.org > Reply-To: "Hilarie Orman" <hilarie@purplestreak.com> > > Security review of Hypertext Transfer Protocol Version 3 > draft-ietf-quic-http-32 > > Do not be alarmed. I generated this review of this document as part > of the security directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF > documents being processed by the IESG. These comments were written > with the intent of improving security requirements and considerations > in IETF drafts. Comments not addressed in last call may be included > in AD reviews during the IESG review. Document editors and WG chairs > should treat these comments just like any other last call comments. > > This document describes "describes a mapping of HTTP semantics over > QUIC. [... It] also identifies HTTP/2 features that are subsumed by > QUIC, and describes how HTTP/2 extensions can be ported to HTTP/3." > > I would like to see the Security Considerations spell out exactly > what security features HTTP expects from QUIC. > > There are reasonably good Security Consideration sections for > both this document and for QUIC transport. The only problem that > I have is that the authentication model for QUIC-HTTP is not > explicitly spelled out. The only discussion is in section 3.4 > Connection Reuse, and although that section may be technically > correct, I find it hard to understand. Similarly, there is brief > mention of privacy wrt reused connections in 10.11, but that is > weak beer, simply saying that HTTP 3 prefers not to reuse connections. > And integrity of the data isn't mentioned at all, perhaps because > all this is assumed to be provided by QUIC. Section 10.2 says that > all QUIC packets are encrypted; I'm not sure if that's true, or if > QUIC has an option for "non-modifiable" without encryption. The > QUIC draft is 200 pages and is still in progress, ... like a wimp > I skimmed it but did not read it in detail. > > Hilarie > > >
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