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Mike Bishop <Michael.Bishop@microsoft.com> Tue, 25 July 2017 20:03 UTC

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From: Mike Bishop <Michael.Bishop@microsoft.com>
To: Mike Bishop <Michael.Bishop@microsoft.com>, Patrick McManus <pmcmanus@mozilla.com>, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
CC: Lucas Pardue <Lucas.Pardue@bbc.co.uk>, IETF QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>, Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: New Second Implementation Draft
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Just so we’re on the same page – this set of “Second Implementation Draft” targets is for Seattle?  Or some future date?

From: QUIC [mailto:quic-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mike Bishop
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 10:21 PM
To: Patrick McManus <pmcmanus@mozilla.com>; Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Cc: Lucas Pardue <Lucas.Pardue@bbc.co.uk>; IETF QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>; Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>; Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: New Second Implementation Draft

I’d follow precedent – http/1.1 is already defined, so why not http/0.9?

I’d also like to mention that my wife is particularly fond of the paint color “Rhino” for the associated bikeshed.  😉

From: QUIC [mailto:quic-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Patrick McManus
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To: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com<mailto:ekr@rtfm.com>>
Cc: Lucas Pardue <Lucas.Pardue@bbc.co.uk<mailto:Lucas.Pardue@bbc.co.uk>>; IETF QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org<mailto:quic@ietf.org>>; Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com<mailto:martin.thomson@gmail.com>>; Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com<mailto:martin.h.duke@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: New Second Implementation Draft

its a good idea that needs a bikeshed. hq-nop would be my preference (stay in the hq namespace)..

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com<mailto:ekr@rtfm.com>> wrote:
h09q-05? :)

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 2:27 AM, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com<mailto:martin.thomson@gmail.com>> wrote:
Do we need a permanent ALPN token for this?  It seems like a useful
facility to build into stacks that are transport-only.  Maybe "h09q".

On 21 July 2017 at 10:00, Lucas Pardue <Lucas.Pardue@bbc.co.uk<mailto:Lucas.Pardue@bbc.co.uk>> wrote:
> I appreciate the flexibility but have difficulty in seeing how this would
> flow through to interop testing, how do we measure success? One possible
> outcome is interop limited to self-test of “bespoke-simple-app” over QUIC,
> is that good enough? My preference is to pick a minimal baseline (“echo and
> amplify” or whatever else) and then additionals are a bonus that is up to
> external coordination. I think this common baseline could also help towards
> ongoing consideration for performance or benchmarking, over disparate
> implementations, as aspects of the protocol evolve or change.
>
>
>
> The proposal to do HTTP 0.9 GET, discussed in Prague, addresses my concerns.
>
>
>
> Lucas
>
>

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