Re: Call for Adoption: draft-schinazi-quic-version-negotiation
Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen <mikkelfj@gmail.com> Thu, 12 December 2019 18:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: Call for Adoption: draft-schinazi-quic-version-negotiation
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+1, I’m slightly worried about fingerprinting of the clients supported versions, but I guess it is not worse than other transport parameters. I also note that the need to be able to read old Initial packets may affect the choice of transport parameter encoding since this can now span many versions, also versions that do not necessarily use TLS (#3294). Mikkel On 12 December 2019 at 18.26.47, Roy T. Fielding (fielding@gbiv.com) wrote: +1 .....Roy
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- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-schinazi-quic-versio… Jana Iyengar
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- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-schinazi-quic-versio… Martin Thomson
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-schinazi-quic-versio… Kazuho Oku
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-schinazi-quic-versio… Ian Swett
- RE: Call for Adoption: draft-schinazi-quic-versio… Roni Even (A)
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-schinazi-quic-versio… Martin Duke
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-schinazi-quic-versio… Roy T. Fielding
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-schinazi-quic-versio… Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-schinazi-quic-versio… Roberto Peon
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-schinazi-quic-versio… Eric Kinnear
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-schinazi-quic-versio… Marten Seemann
- RE: Call for Adoption: draft-schinazi-quic-versio… Mike Bishop
- Re: Call for Adoption: draft-schinazi-quic-versio… Sean Turner