Re: [radext] Client ID exhaustion
Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> Wed, 26 April 2017 12:55 UTC
Return-Path: <aland@deployingradius.com>
X-Original-To: radext@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: radext@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C3B129B7E for <radext@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 05:55:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.901
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ei_BRBXdA654 for <radext@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 05:55:07 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail.networkradius.com (mail.networkradius.com [62.210.147.122]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF0E129B89 for <radext@ietf.org>; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 05:55:07 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.networkradius.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CE8B4F; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:55:07 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from mail.networkradius.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail-server.vmhost2.networkradius.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sU9g1-EGc45c; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:55:06 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from [10.1.2.225] (d72-38-204-8.commercial1.cgocable.net [72.38.204.8]) by mail.networkradius.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 97BEE619; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:55:06 +0000 (UTC)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\))
From: Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com>
In-Reply-To: <f521cd74-028d-33e7-4b94-0a9d65bd7d37@restena.lu>
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 08:55:05 -0400
Cc: radext@ietf.org
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <A0316685-A60A-40FD-BE2D-21F15DF87826@deployingradius.com>
References: <f521cd74-028d-33e7-4b94-0a9d65bd7d37@restena.lu>
To: Winter Stefan <stefan.winter@restena.lu>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/radext/o3jwKhlDF9wKL6DDPt5jMoz8rqk>
Subject: Re: [radext] Client ID exhaustion
X-BeenThere: radext@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: RADIUS EXTensions working group discussion list <radext.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/radext>, <mailto:radext-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/radext/>
List-Post: <mailto:radext@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:radext-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/radext>, <mailto:radext-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:55:09 -0000
On Apr 26, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Stefan Winter <stefan.winter@restena.lu> wrote: > It's fairly clear that implementations which do not follow the MAY will > run into exhaustion problems rather soon. I think implementations which don't open new source ports are few and far between. They are typically simple and small. > It's less clear that implementations which do follow this MAY still do. > We've heard finger-in-the-air calculations on the list that this may > become a problem earlier than one might think. But is there actual > evidence to that end in deployed reality? All RADIUS servers open new ports. All NAS equipment that costs more than $20 opens new ports. > Can someone please share their experience regarding a deployment and > implementation which DOES implement the MAY above but STILL runs out of > RADIUS packet IDs? I've never seen one. The issue for me is really TCP, and accounting. It would be useful to be able to send many accounting packets to a server. It would be useful to "fill" a TCP connection with RADIUS traffic. The 256 packet limit makes that impossible. Whether or not this proposal gets approval, I think it's useful. If nothing else, I will likely add it as a configurable (not negotiable) extension to my implementation. Alan DeKok.
- [radext] Client ID exhaustion Stefan Winter
- Re: [radext] Client ID exhaustion Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Client ID exhaustion Enke Chen
- Re: [radext] Client ID exhaustion Stefan Winter
- Re: [radext] Client ID exhaustion Alan DeKok
- Re: [radext] Client ID exhaustion Ignacio Goyret
- Re: [radext] Client ID exhaustion Enke Chen
- Re: [radext] Client ID exhaustion Alan DeKok