Re: [radext] Review of draft-winter-radext-populating-eapidentity-01

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From: lionel.morand@orange.com
To: Sam Hartman <hartmans@painless-security.com>, Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com>
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Hi Bernard,

I tend to agree with Sam. I will review again the draft based on your comment. However I understand that the point is WHEN "Identity Response be used primarily for routing purposes ", there is some considerations to take into account to use it as user-name identity in RADIUS and Diameter. Everything else related to method-specific EAP identity (format, use, etc.) is out of scope of this document. At least it is my current understanding.

Lionel

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De : radext [mailto:radext-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Sam Hartman
Envoyé : lundi 20 juillet 2015 13:30
À : Bernard Aboba
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Objet : Re: [radext] Review of draft-winter-radext-populating-eapidentity-01

>>>>> "Bernard" == Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com> writes:

    Bernard>    One of the fundamental assumptions of this document is
    Bernard> that the EAP-Response/Identity is somehow determined from
    Bernard> the method-specific identities.  This is not correct, as
    Bernard> RFC 3748 Section 5.1 makes clear:

Hi.  I was very confused to read this paragraph, because we've discussed this issue several times and I think we're all in agreement that the method-specific identities are not directly related to the eap response/identity.  I think that as the text you cite from RFC 3748 points out, the EAP response is often used for routing, so in many deployments there is some relation.

I stopped reading your review after this first paragraph, because I think that this disconnect colors the entire review.  I'd really appreciate it if you would explain why you think the document is assuming that the eap-response/identity is determined from method identities.
I know that was not our intent.

I do think it's true that implementations sometimes derive both the eap response/identity and the method-specific identities from a common principal.
Other implementations request both identities from the user.
However, I don't know anything that tries to map back from a method identity to an eap response.

--Sam

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