[radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis
Peter Deacon <peterd@iea-software.com> Tue, 22 September 2026 09:54 UTC
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Subject: [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis
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On Sun, 6 Sep 2026, Jan-Frederik Rieckers wrote: > Hello, > I'm not sure if a "SHOULD" for the connection closure is sufficient. > If a connection has a security issue it should always be closed > immediately. Keeping the connection artificially open is harmful, > because the client might start to send packets and those may even time > out if the server knows the connection is unacceptable and does not > process anything received on that connection. If a client offends a server in some way a server should not be required to provide immediate feedback if doing so would be harmful to the server. A robust client implementation could issue an application keepalive immediate upon session establishment or initially concurrently connect to multiple servers using the one that responds first. I don't support requiring instant feedback to an offensive client. Unfortunately given current draft even over a "reliable" transport a perfectly valid request over a perfectly valid connection is allowed to be summarily ignored with not even a best effort expectation of any kind of response. Clients therefore have to be able to handle these bizarre situations where even reliable transports act for all intent and purposes as if they were unreliable. Not just initially but throughout the life of the session. regards, Peter
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- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Margaret Cullen
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Heikki Vatiainen
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Jan-Frederik Rieckers
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Margaret Cullen
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Alan DeKok
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Heikki Vatiainen
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Alan DeKok
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Heikki Vatiainen
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Jan-Frederik Rieckers
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Heikki Vatiainen
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Alan DeKok
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Heikki Vatiainen
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Alan DeKok
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Peter Deacon
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Fabian Mauchle
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Michael Richardson
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Peter Deacon
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Fabian Mauchle
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Jan-Frederik Rieckers
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Peter Deacon
- [radext] Re: Final update to RADIUS/(D)TLS-bis Alan DeKok