Re: [Rats] draft-frost-rats-eat-collection-01 ... RE: Request for review and interest

Thomas Fossati <tho.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 03 October 2022 20:50 UTC

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From: Thomas Fossati <tho.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2022 21:49:57 +0100
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To: Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [Rats] draft-frost-rats-eat-collection-01 ... RE: Request for review and interest
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Hi Hannes,

On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 3:07 PM Hannes Tschofenig
<Hannes.Tschofenig@arm.com> wrote:
> This document is simple but useful because it allows us to bundle two or more EAT tokens together.
>
> One application of this document is in draft-fossati-tls-attestation.
>
> Hence, I support this document.

I agree it is a useful construct that can be repurposed for our
attested TLS prototype.  In general, it seems like a good match for
cases where two pieces of evidence must fit together -- for example,
Eric noticed it could be also used as a building block for ar4si's
AR-augmented evidence.

(Maybe the two use cases above could be added to §2.)

One observation.  The evidence binding mechanism is left as IMPDEF.
While I agree implementations must be free to choose what suits them
best, I think it'd be good if the document provided a robust default
for the binder construction that collections can reuse if they don't
have any special requirements.

cheers,

> From: RATS <rats-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Carl Wallace
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:13 PM
> To: Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing) <ncamwing=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; rats@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Rats] Request for review and interest
>
> I have reviewed this draft and provided feedback and would do so again as it progresses.
>
> From: RATS <mailto:rats-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of "Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)" <mailto:ncamwing=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> Date: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 at 7:11 PM
> To: "mailto:rats@ietf.org" <mailto:rats@ietf.org>
> Subject: [Rats] Request for review and interest
>
> Hello RATs participants,
>
> There was discussion at the IETF 114 RATs session on EAT media types and more specifically document:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-frost-rats-eat-collection/
>
> This is a call for review and interest to gauge if the working group is interested in working, adopting
> And implementing media types.  Further, if the draft is ready for adoption.
>
> Can we have at least 3 volunteers to review the draft and provide feedback?
>
> Thanks,
> Nancy
> (on behalf of the RATs chairs)
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Thomas