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[Rats] Re: [Seat] Re: [WIMSE] Re: Re: Re: Re: Follow-up of meeting 122 presentation (Formal proof of insecurity of Intel's RA-TLS and draft-fossati-tls-attestation)

Paul Wouters <paul.wouters@aiven.io> Sat, 17 January 2026 17:14 UTC

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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2026 12:13:33 -0500
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All,

I would like to apologize for my previous message. I let my frustration get
the upper hand and could and should have written a more professional
message.

My apologies,

Paul

On Fri, Jan 16, 2026 at 6:45 PM Paul Wouters <paul.wouters@aiven.io> wrote:

>
> On Fri, Jan 16, 2026 at 6:12 PM Muhammad Usama Sardar <
> muhammad_usama.sardar@tu-dresden.de> wrote:
>
>> Could WIMSE clarify which one of the following is intended in its
>> attestation?
>>
>>    1. Software-based attestation *only*
>>    2. Any of software-based attestation or hardware-based attestation
>>
>> This is a false dichotomy. Wimse is trying to keep it generic, without
> locking in to anything. Perhaps someone wants to do attestation via the
> Horn of Valere, and deem something attested when the horn is blown. It does
> not matter. As others also tried to convey, there is no interest to blow
> this up with massive amounts of attestation details. It is the wrong place
> for that. WIMSE is not SEAT.
>
> Paul
>

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