IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [Rats] Call for Adoption: EAT draft

Jeremy O'Donoghue <jodonogh@qti.qualcomm.com> Fri, 17 May 2019 08:20 UTC

Return-Path: <jodonogh@qti.qualcomm.com>
X-Original-To: rats@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: rats@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB04120350 for <rats@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 17 May 2019 01:20:45 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -4.3
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.3 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=qti.qualcomm.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KMUP4QHdXRVa for <rats@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 17 May 2019 01:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from alexa-out-ams-02.qualcomm.com (alexa-out-ams-02.qualcomm.com [185.23.61.163]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEA8F1201AF for <rats@ietf.org>; Fri, 17 May 2019 01:20:42 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qti.qualcomm.com; i=@qti.qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1558081243; x=1589617243; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=b6Eh307fNcTN8rvfcDVAA2ekU91YoR0SDCi23TcpHjw=; b=mEducGqU+1gDIK+LpAYMnT1+0e3eIgFm0NlmLhH/dd92XqzkklEvsycG Y3UAh7xxLRuMjfIfqLKIqJOiUNRz9pJAEeqGp8J7D1y8mDnMTUhvQOm5B 9HF8JYObRnWL80/GyWeL0ehXCJfOvLZbd/qlbuSh8BRdz3DAPlffSEvT6 s=;
Received: from ironmsg02-ams.qualcomm.com ([10.251.56.3]) by alexa-out-ams-02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 17 May 2019 10:20:41 +0200
X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5900,7806,9259"; a="8144672"
Received: from euamsexm01e.eu.qualcomm.com ([10.251.127.42]) by ironmsg02-ams.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES256-SHA; 17 May 2019 10:20:41 +0200
Received: from euamsexm01a.eu.qualcomm.com (10.251.127.40) by euamsexm01e.eu.qualcomm.com (10.251.127.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1395.4; Fri, 17 May 2019 10:20:39 +0200
Received: from euamsexm01a.eu.qualcomm.com ([10.251.127.40]) by euamsexm01a.eu.qualcomm.com ([10.251.127.40]) with mapi id 15.00.1395.000; Fri, 17 May 2019 10:20:38 +0200
From: Jeremy O'Donoghue <jodonogh@qti.qualcomm.com>
To: "Xialiang (Frank, Network Standard & Patent Dept)" <frank.xialiang@huawei.com>
CC: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>, "rats@ietf.org" <rats@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Rats] Call for Adoption: EAT draft
Thread-Index: AdUMYplNNZf9gXcURcGrSfLhU+2fIQAFgugA
Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 08:20:38 +0000
Message-ID: <F06D8AD6-9F3D-4103-B29A-0116EB0F3BEF@qti.qualcomm.com>
References: <C02846B1344F344EB4FAA6FA7AF481F12CA86149@DGGEMM531-MBS.china.huawei.com>
In-Reply-To: <C02846B1344F344EB4FAA6FA7AF481F12CA86149@DGGEMM531-MBS.china.huawei.com>
Accept-Language: en-GB, en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
x-mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11)
x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1
x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted
x-originating-ip: [10.251.52.12]
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_F06D8AD69F3D4103B29A0116EB0F3BEFqtiqualcommcom_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rats/H8MAwXOTkwgWq5FgfCRdEMjwHG0>
Subject: Re: [Rats] Call for Adoption: EAT draft
X-BeenThere: rats@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Remote Attestation Procedures <rats.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/rats>, <mailto:rats-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/rats/>
List-Post: <mailto:rats@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:rats-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rats>, <mailto:rats-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 May 2019 08:20:46 -0000

I support adoption of this draft.

To respond to the specific point from Frank, I do believe that additional claims will be necessary in the published specification, but we should be aware that EAT is deliberately intended to be extensible.

As such it is for me entirely expected that other specifications such as the PSA draft (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-tschofenig-rats-psa-token-00) or work undertaken in other bodies (GlobalPlatform, TCG, FIDO, ...) will define additional claims. IANA registration of claims IDs will be sufficient to ensure interoperability.

Point is, I would like to see the first release be fairly conservative in taking only the most general claims on which we have strong agreement and using additional documents where more use-case/vertical specific extensions are needed.

Best regards
Jeremy

---
Jeremy O’Donoghue                            email: jodonogh@qti.qualcomm.com<mailto:jodonogh@qti.qualcomm.com>
Director, Engineering                        tel:   +44 1252 363189
NFC & Secure Software and Systems


On 17 May 2019, at 04:43, Xialiang (Frank, Network Standard & Patent Dept) <frank.xialiang@huawei.com<mailto:frank.xialiang@huawei.com>> wrote:


CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization.

Hi,
I support the adoption of this EAT draft.
It is a relative stable solution draft for RATS, which can be a good start for the other RATS work items and make this specific solution to meet the industry urgent needs.

I have a general comment: how about the claims definition in this draft? Should it be a more general and complete claim set definition for all covered use cases, and specified in one individual draft?

Thanks!

B.R.
Frank
<image002.png>

This e-mail and its attachments contain confidential information from HUAWEI, which is intended only for the person or entity whose address is listed above. Any use of the information contained herein in any way (including, but not limited to, total or partial disclosure, reproduction, or dissemination) by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by phone or email immediately and delete it!

发件人: RATS [mailto:rats-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 Kathleen Moriarty
发送时间: 2019年5月10日 23:07
收件人: rats@ietf.org<mailto:rats@ietf.org>
主题: [Rats] Call for Adoption: EAT draft

Greetings!

At IETF 104, a poll was taken to determine interest in the RATS WG adopting:

The Entity Attestation Token (EAT)
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mandyam-rats-eat/

This begins a 2 week period to determine interest in adopting this draft as a working group item.  The poll will close on May 24th EOD PDT.

Minutes from IETF 104:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-104-rats/
--

Best regards,
Kathleen
_______________________________________________
RATS mailing list
RATS@ietf.org<mailto:RATS@ietf.org>
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rats

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email