[rddp] Re: [Ips] iSCSI over RDMA (iSER and DA) Internet Drafts
"Mallikarjun C." <cbm@rose.hp.com> Wed, 05 November 2003 22:47 UTC
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Subject: [rddp] Re: [Ips] iSCSI over RDMA (iSER and DA) Internet Drafts
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Thanks David. >and solicit interest in working on them (e.g., >organize an informal meeting [aka "bar BOF"] to discuss >further). Sorry for the cross-post, but I'd like to hear in short order (< 24 hours) from all those who can attend an informal iSER/DA discussion/presentation *if one is organized* along the lines of what David suggested. I know it's perhaps too late for such a poll, but if enough folks respond within a day, some of us would like to take the time to present, educate and be educated. Please send me a short email *offline* if you can attend. All the folks on this distribution are welcome. If I see enough responses, I will send an annoucement with logistics by 11/6 evening PT. In the absence of such a separate discussion, of course, the 5 minute agenda time in the RDDP meeting will be the only discussion time as a group on iSER/DA (excluding the hallway conversations). Thanks. Mallikarjun At 11:01 AM 10/24/2003, Black_David@emc.com wrote: >On the IPS list, Mallikarjun asked: > > > Could you please recommend the most optimal course > > of action to request and enhance the WG charter? > >IETF being IETF, the world of "rough consensus and >running code", I have no idea what "the most optimal >course of action" would be, or whether it even exists :-). > >The scope of an IETF WG's activities and the items on >which it works are managed by the Area Directors and >the IESG via the WG's charter, among other means. My >understanding of the Transport ADs' views is that the >IP Storage WG has been very successful in what the WG >set out to do, and the time has come to finish up the >current work, declare victory and move on (with the WG >either going dormant or being concluded). Of course the >ADs always reserve the right to change their minds based >on new information, etc., and my understanding may be >less than perfect. > >The people advocating addition of work on iSCSI over RDMA >seem to be spending a lot of energy on where the work should >be done (process) and much less on whether and why it should >be done (technical merits). In my experience, these two topics >are best pursued in the opposite order. Specifically, the first >decision (ADs and IESG as appropriate) should be whether the >work is to be done and with what scope; if that is decided >in the affirmative, then matters of where and how can then >be worked out in a reasonable fashion. > >Given this, I do have some advice to offer: >(1) A promising path towards undertaking iSCSI over RDMA work > in the IETF involves a BOF, e.g., in Seoul. Those > interested in such a BOF should approach the Transport > Area Directors about organizing and holding one (but > first read the material on BOFs in RFC 2418). By the > time of the Seoul meeting week, the rddp WG should be > done or close to done with most of the drafts on which > iSCSI over RDMA depends, providing a firmer foundation > for the proposed work. >- One of the things that inclines ADs and the IESG towards > approval of work is the existence of an open community of > people interested in the work, the broader the better. > IETF meeting weeks are a good opportunity to solicit > interest in possible work towards forming/broadening such > a community (e.g., hallway discussion). In furtherance > of this, in my role as RDDP WG chair I have already promised > the iSER/DA draft authors a 5 minute slot in the RDDP WG > meeting in Minneapolis to briefly describe what the drafts > are about and solicit interest in working on them (e.g., > organize an informal meeting [aka "bar BOF"] to discuss > further). > >For those who are new to this topic, the iSER and DA drafts >on the topic of iSCSI over RDMA are: > >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ko-iwarp-iser-00.txt >http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-chadalapaka-iwarp-da-00.txt > >Thanks, >--David (IPS WG co-chair, RDDP WG chair) >---------------------------------------------------- >David L. Black, Senior Technologist >EMC Corporation, 176 South St., Hopkinton, MA 01748 >+1 (508) 293-7953 FAX: +1 (508) 293-7786 >black_david@emc.com Mobile: +1 (978) 394-7754 >---------------------------------------------------- > >_______________________________________________ >Ips mailing list >Ips@ietf.org >https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ips _______________________________________________ rddp mailing list rddp@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rddp
- [rddp] iSCSI over RDMA (iSER and DA) Internet Dra… Black_David
- [rddp] Re: [Ips] iSCSI over RDMA (iSER and DA) In… Mallikarjun C.