Re: [re-ECN] Draft agenda, prep'ing for Anaheim (IETF77)

["Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Leslie, 

I have a slightly modified proposal. Let us not turn this into rocket
science. 

I would like to simplify the story a bit: 

* Briefly summarize the findings of data usage (there are a few papers
to talk about). 
  Figure out whether people agree that there is a problem. 
  
  [The chairs could give that presentation.] 

* Explain what the state the art is. 
  This has to include the work Comcast is done with their FairShare

  [I could imagine that Ric would be a perfect speaker.]

* Why is the state-of-the-art not sufficient? 
  The presentation would cover gaps in the existing solutions. 
  What are the desired properties of a system we would like to have.

  [Maybe an operator or an equipment vendor could provide some insight.]

Finally, leave enough time for discussion. I am sure that people have
interesting insight into the state of the art and what is wrong with it.
There are at least a couple of companies on this list that ship stuff to
operators while we speak (just not Conex).

Ciao
Hannes


>-----Original Message-----
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>On Behalf Of ext Leslie Daigle
>Sent: 08 March, 2010 01:51
>To: [e-mail]; Philip Eardley
>Subject: [re-ECN] Draft agenda, prep'ing for Anaheim (IETF77)
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I wanted to give a bit of an update on planning for the 
>Anaheim meeting. 
>  Also, we're probably getting to be delinquent on filing an agenda. 
>That's partly because Phil & I have been working with Lars on 
>the scheduling problem:  we're currently scheduled into 2 
>approx 1 hour slots that are NOT back to back on Wednesday.  
>That's suboptimal at the best of times, but made worse by the 
>fact that the one we're advised will be the best shot at 
>getting RTG players into the room is the 2nd one.  We're 
>trying to find a way to take the (currently) first slot and 
>reschedule it for later in the week.  Options are few.  We may 
>just cancel that session.
>
>With all that -- we've been thinking about how to use a 1-hour 
>slot to articulate the motivation for CONEX and lay out a 
>sensible workplan for an eventual working group.
>
>So, proposed:
>
>1 hour slot Wed 3.10-4.10pm
>We will finish promptly due to the plenary in the same room
>
>
>* overview of conex
>	- Leslie or Phil
>	- only the high-level, architectural issue
>* architectural overview of the problem
>	- Mark H (tbc)
>	- the problem of congestion
>* traffic mgt problems - whole internet perspective
>	- Mat Ford (tbc), overall perspective -  briefing panel at
>	   last ietf
>* Network perspective
>	- Rich Woundy (tbc)
>	- yes, ISPs think there's aproblem
>	- current solutions have drawbacks, hence want conex
>* Lay out the CONEX proposed approach (charter)
>	- Phil or Leslie
>* 20-30 mins discussion
>	- how to structure?
>	- hum on charter again?
>
>I'll note that, if we don't think we can achieve what we need 
>to in the one hour slot, we (collectively) may seriously need 
>to consider scramming the BoF for Anaheim, and review whether 
>we can take it up again later in Maastricht, if we can be 
>scheduled better.
>
>Leslie.
>
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