Re: [regext] Privacy and HR considerations for draft-ietf-regext-verificationcode

[Niels ten Oever <[e-mail]>]

Hi all,

I strongly support the inclusion of text in the draft. 

I think the differentiations that are being made here between 'technical' and 'policy', and 'technical' and 'judicial' here are merely rhetorical. No clear definition of the either terms and/or the difference have been offered thus far. Thus the argument to not include the text seems unfounded.

Next to that, I have not been able to locate the limitation for the use of MUST and MAY, as defined by John Levine, in RFC2119.

Best,

Niels

  

On 1/2/19 12:07 PM, Thomas Corte wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On 12/26/18 15:32, Gould, James wrote:
> 
>> Do others in the working group believe that either the verification process of the VSP is in scope based on the current wording of the draft or that a consideration section can cover something that is outside the defined scope of the draft?
> 
> No, I agree that it's way out of scope. Gurshabad's proposed additions
> are in my point of view an attempt to address *judicial* issues (ensuring
> people's right to privacy, non-discrimination etc.) by adding wording to
> a *technical* specification. Lawyers and politicians exist to deal with
> such issues; engineers should not be required to waste their time with them.
> 
> Plus, even *if* such wording should end up in the draft, it would be
> utterly pointless. Looking at the various implementations of EPP and EPP
> extensions which are out in the open (especially for country code TLDs),
> it's obvious that even the most basic technical requirements (such as
> strict XML schema compliance) and MUST regulations are often ignored or
> violated by many operators. I'd therefore be surprised if anyone who's
> determined to "abuse" the extension for human rights violations would
> care much about the proposed additions anyway.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Thomas
> 

-- 
Niels ten Oever
Researcher and PhD Candidate
Datactive Research Group
University of Amsterdam

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