Re: [renum] An observation on 'draft-jiang-6renum-enterprise-00.txt'
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 13 July 2011 21:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: [renum] An observation on 'draft-jiang-6renum-enterprise-00.txt'
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Fred, It's mentioned in RFC 5887 that one trigger for IPv6 renumbering could be migrating from a transitional IPv6 solution to true native IPv6. In that sense, coexistence mechanisms are (IMHO) in the scope of the 6renum charter, but I think it's limited to that; IPv4 is out of scope unless "analysis leads to conclusions that are also applicable to IPv4." Of course, this applies to all coexistence mechanisms, not just ISATAP. I agree that mentioning renumbering from a coexistence solution to a native solution is reasonable, as it may lead to specific items in the gap analysis. Regards Brian On 2011-07-14 06:13, Templin, Fred L wrote: > > [[ Re-sending - previous attempt was truncated ]] > > Authors, > > In Section 1 of this document, we see: > > "This document focuses on IPv6 only, by leaving IPv4 > out of scope. Dual-stack network or IPv4/IPv6 > transition scenarios are out of scope, too." > > This statement seem to me to be dodging a very > important phase in the transition of existing IPv4 > enterprise networks into IPv6 supporting enterprises. > Indeed, the document fails to cite the two v6ops > publications on Enterprise network IPv6 considerations, > namely "IPv6 Enterprise Network Scenarios" [RFC4057] > and "IPv6 Enterprise Network Analysis - IP Layer 3 > Focus" [RFC4852]". These documents clearly show a > need to account for a mixed IPv4/IPv6 environment > for some time to come. > > Also, in Section 2 of your document: > > "The complicated IPv4/IPv6 co-existing scenarios are > out of scope." > > In the case of ISATAP [RFC5214] at least, I disagree > with the characterization of "complicated". Indeed, > using ISATAP, an entire enterprise network can be > automatically renumbered by touching only the site > bordering ISATAP routers when their ISP delegated > prefixes from the ISP change. As far as I can tell, > such would represent possibly the simplest of all > renumbering scenarios. Note also that operational > guidance for IPv6 deployment in IPv4 sites using > is now beind documented in 'draft-templin-v6ops-isops', > which could also be cited by your document. > > Please check these works, and consider citing the > appropriate documents. Please also note that ISATAP > provides a ready-made simple solution for enterprise > network renumbering, which could also be mentioned > in your document. > > Thanks - Fred > fred.l.templin@boeing.com > >
- [renum] An observation on 'draft-jiang-6renum-ent… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [renum] An observation on 'draft-jiang-6renum… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [renum] An observation on 'draft-jiang-6renum… Templin, Fred L
- Re: [renum] An observation on 'draft-jiang-6renum… Jiangsheng