Re: [renum] An observation on 'draft-jiang-6renum-enterprise-00.txt'

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 13 July 2011 21:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: [renum] An observation on 'draft-jiang-6renum-enterprise-00.txt'
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Fred,

It's mentioned in RFC 5887 that one trigger for IPv6 renumbering could
be migrating from a transitional IPv6 solution to true native IPv6.
In that sense, coexistence mechanisms are (IMHO) in the scope of the
6renum charter, but I think it's limited to that; IPv4 is out of scope
unless "analysis leads to conclusions that are also applicable to IPv4."
Of course, this applies to all coexistence mechanisms, not just ISATAP.

I agree that mentioning renumbering from a coexistence solution to
a native solution is reasonable, as it may lead to specific items in
the gap analysis.

Regards
   Brian

On 2011-07-14 06:13, Templin, Fred L wrote:
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> 
> Authors,
> 
> In Section 1 of this document, we see:
> 
>   "This document focuses on IPv6 only, by leaving IPv4
>    out of scope. Dual-stack network or IPv4/IPv6
>    transition scenarios are out of scope, too."
> 
> This statement seem to me to be dodging a very
> important phase in the transition of existing IPv4
> enterprise networks into IPv6 supporting enterprises.
> Indeed, the document fails to cite the two v6ops
> publications on Enterprise network IPv6 considerations,
> namely "IPv6 Enterprise Network Scenarios" [RFC4057]
> and "IPv6 Enterprise Network Analysis - IP Layer 3
> Focus" [RFC4852]". These documents clearly show a
> need to account for a mixed IPv4/IPv6 environment
> for some time to come.
> 
> Also, in Section 2 of your document:
> 
>   "The complicated IPv4/IPv6 co-existing scenarios are
>    out of scope."
> 
> In the case of ISATAP [RFC5214] at least, I disagree
> with the characterization of "complicated". Indeed,
> using ISATAP, an entire enterprise network can be
> automatically renumbered by touching only the site
> bordering ISATAP routers when their ISP delegated
> prefixes from the ISP change. As far as I can tell,
> such would represent possibly the simplest of all
> renumbering scenarios. Note also that operational
> guidance for IPv6 deployment in IPv4 sites using
> is now beind documented in 'draft-templin-v6ops-isops',
> which could also be cited by your document.
> 
> Please check these works, and consider citing the
> appropriate documents. Please also note that ISATAP
> provides a ready-made simple solution for enterprise
> network renumbering, which could also be mentioned
> in your document.
> 
> Thanks - Fred
> fred.l.templin@boeing.com
> 
>