Re: [rfc-i] RFCs now updated in ACM Digital Library

Jean Mahoney <jmahoney@amsl.com> Wed, 11 January 2023 15:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] RFCs now updated in ACM Digital Library
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Hi Alexis,

Debian packages RFCs (seems to have stopped updating in 2020): 
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/doc-rfc

Best regards,
Jean

On 1/10/23 5:55 PM, Alexis Rossi wrote:
> Great idea, Bob!
>
> There are definitely more places with copies of RFCs. These are some 
> of the ones we either have a partnership with or at least know about:
>
>   * *Computer History Museum* - archiving agreement, RFCs updated once
>     per year
>   * *National Library of Sweden* - archiving agreement, but having
>     trouble contacting them (so if anyone has a contact there, let me
>     know!)
>   * *ACM Digital Library* [1] - independent, updated periodically
>     throughout the year
>   * *Nanjing University* [2] - independent, seems to be kept very up
>     to date
>   * *Wayback Machine* - independent, seems to stay up to date, have
>     not audited for completeness
>   * *Princeton* [3] - independent, last updated Sep 2022
>   * *Internet FAQ Archives* [4] - independent, seems to have stopped
>     updating in 2019
>
>
> Also I’ve seen some businesses have mirrors, like Muonics [5] which is 
> a couple months out of date, and Ripe [6] which stopped updating in 2020.
>
> If anybody knows of more of these, please do let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Alexis
>
>
> [1] https://dl.acm.org/browse/rfc
> [2] https://mirrors.nju.edu.cn/rfc/
> [3] https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/RFCs/
> [4] http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/
> [5] https://www.muonics.com/rfc/
> [6] https://ftp.ripe.net/mirrors/rfc/
>
>> On Jan 5, 2023, at 9:44 AM, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Alexis,
>>
>> Good to hear!
>>
>> Perhaps you could summarize all of the places that the RFC Editor has 
>> worked to have the RFC series archived.   I didn’t see anything about 
>> this on the RFC Editor web site.   I think it used to be at the 
>> Computer History Museum and some libraries, but don’t remember the 
>> specifics.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 4, 2023, at 5:15 PM, Alexis Rossi <rsce@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> One of the best long term preservation strategies is to have 
>>> multiple copies of documents stored with different organizations. To 
>>> that end, I’ve been looking for additional homes for RFCs. Also, for 
>>> access I think it’s great to have the RFCs in places where people 
>>> are doing other types of research already.
>>>
>>> The Association for Computing Machinery (ACM) Digital Library had 
>>> some RFCs, but they had not been updated since 2004. Fortunately, 
>>> they were quite interested in bringing that collection up to date, 
>>> so they are now current and will be updating their collection 
>>> periodically through the year.
>>>
>>> Better preservation, more access! Yay!
>>>
>>> Alexis
>>>
>>> [1] https://dl.acm.org/browse/rfc?startPage=0&sortBy=EpubDate_desc 
>>> <https://dl.acm.org/browse/rfc?startPage=0&sortBy=EpubDate_desc>
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