Re: [rfc-i] [Rfced-future] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re: [admin-discuss] Public archival of AUTH48 communications)
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Thu, 03 March 2022 19:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] [Rfced-future] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re: [admin-discuss] Public archival of AUTH48 communications)
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Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
> On 3. Mar 2022, at 07:15, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
>>
>> I am not aware of backroom dealings for non-editorial changes
>> during AUTH48.
> Of course not. That is the point of backroom dealings!
at least, if you are any good at them.
> More seriously, there is a continuum here, and transparency could help
> keeping everyone subtly more honest.
I would say it differently.
People not involved any a specific AUTH48 can't be sure what horse trading
may have occurred during the editing, or who initiated it.
ADs might be able to say that they have never seen any backroom dealings, and
specific authors may agree for specific documents, but suspicious could still remain.
Having a public audit trail just makes everyone feel happy.
> But I’m really not so concerned about backroom deals, but simply with
> the lack of breadth of the small group finishing the AUTH48.
Agreed.
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Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca> . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
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